Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

[stick3925]

Sounds like we've got a good six QBs to keep an eye on maybe?

Williams
Maye
Daniels
JJM
Nix
Penix

There will be a lot of QBs in this class. I don't know how many of them are necessarily going to be good profiles though.

Penix for example, looks good, but he is also a six year starter, who will be 24 next year. Usually, old QB prospects who've been in college for a long time do not have a strong hit rate.

See Brandon Weeden.

While I think the age issue is generally true, Penix turns 24 in May, not terribly old ... While Weeden was a 29-year-old rookie.

The injury thing is the real major issue for me with Penix. His footwork is also a concern, but I'm constantly amazed by the zip he gets on his throws while throwing flatfooted. I think with his arm strength and the fact that he's got good enough athleticism will convince someone he is worth a first, especially with how many teams need a QB.

[blemly]

Does anyone have any substantive thoughts on Jermaine Burton? Usually Bama’s leading WR garners more attention than he has (and that likely means he isn’t anything special) but I’m curious if anyone thinks differently.

[Shcritters]

There will be a lot of QBs in this class. I don't know how many of them are necessarily going to be good profiles though.

Penix for example, looks good, but he is also a six year starter, who will be 24 next year. Usually, old QB prospects who've been in college for a long time do not have a strong hit rate.

See Brandon Weeden.

While I think the age issue is generally true, Penix turns 24 in May, not terribly old ... While Weeden was a 29-year-old rookie.

The injury thing is the real major issue for me with Penix. His footwork is also a concern, but I'm constantly amazed by the zip he gets on his throws while throwing flatfooted. I think with his arm strength and the fact that he's got good enough athleticism will convince someone he is worth a first, especially with how many teams need a QB.

I came here to post about Penix.

I’m just not seeing it. He looks like an older system QB who did well because of experience, the system, and good WRs. I watched the game last night and there really weren’t any throws that weren’t schemed open. He has zip, but processing after first read… I’m not sure if he has it. Hoping my NFL team doesn’t draft him.

But then again… I wasn’t a fan of the last PAC12 top QB - Herbert - coming out of college, so what do I know.

[Sriracha]

I came here to post about Penix.

I’m just not seeing it. He looks like an older system QB who did well because of experience, the system, and good WRs. I watched the game last night and there really weren’t any throws that weren’t schemed open. He has zip, but processing after first read… I’m not sure if he has it. Hoping my NFL team doesn’t draft him.

But then again… I wasn’t a fan of the last PAC12 top QB - Herbert - coming out of college, so what do I know.

Before he gets unfairly criticized as an "older system QB who did well because of experience, the system, and good WRs"

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... aa707f2876

Penix was doing very well as a (R) Sophomore at Illinoise dropping 342 yards and 3TDs on Michigan and 491 yards and 5TDs vs Ohio St while throwing to Whop Philyor and Ty Fryfogle

He's a very effective passer with a cannon arm and good deep ball accuracy... and the scary thing about him is that there's still a lot of room to improve on his throwing mechanics that he hasn't gotten time to develop because he's been focusing on rehab most of his career.

He's probably an early 2nd round talent but I could see a team reaching for him in the 1st to acquire his 5th year option.

[Cameron Giles]

Does anyone have any substantive thoughts on Jermaine Burton? Usually Bama’s leading WR garners more attention than he has (and that likely means he isn’t anything special) but I’m curious if anyone thinks differently.

Reminds me of a Marvin Jones type of WR. I don't think he's anything special, but could see him being a solid third or fourth WR for a team.

[Bronco Billy]

Does anyone have any substantive thoughts on Jermaine Burton? Usually Bama’s leading WR garners more attention than he has (and that likely means he isn’t anything special) but I’m curious if anyone thinks differently.

Reminds me of a Marvin Jones type of WR. I don't think he's anything special, but could see him being a solid third or fourth WR for a team.

Pretty wide margin between being M Jones and a team’s 3rd/4th WR. When Jones was on his game he was soaking up 100+ targets for 60+ catches, 950-1000 yds and 5-9 TDs - and he did it pretty consistently for a few years running. A Jones type WR is pretty good ROI for any late 1st round pick or later in FF.

[stick3925]

Before he gets unfairly criticized as an "older system QB who did well because of experience, the system, and good WRs"

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... aa707f2876

Penix was doing very well as a (R) Sophomore at Illinoise dropping 342 yards and 3TDs on Michigan and 491 yards and 5TDs vs Ohio St while throwing to Whop Philyor and Ty Fryfogle

He's a very effective passer with a cannon arm and good deep ball accuracy... and the scary thing about him is that there's still a lot of room to improve on his throwing mechanics that he hasn't gotten time to develop because he's been focusing on rehab most of his career.

He's probably an early 2nd round talent but I could see a team reaching for him in the 1st to acquire his 5th year option.

It doesn't really make a difference but Penix was at Indiana before transferring to Washington, not Illinois.

[Sriracha]

It doesn't really make a difference but Penix was at Indiana before transferring to Washington, not Illinois.

You are correct

[Bronco Billy]

Before he gets unfairly criticized as an "older system QB who did well because of experience, the system, and good WRs"

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... aa707f2876

Penix was doing very well as a (R) Sophomore at Illinoise dropping 342 yards and 3TDs on Michigan and 491 yards and 5TDs vs Ohio St while throwing to Whop Philyor and Ty Fryfogle

He's a very effective passer with a cannon arm and good deep ball accuracy... and the scary thing about him is that there's still a lot of room to improve on his throwing mechanics that he hasn't gotten time to develop because he's been focusing on rehab most of his career.

He's probably an early 2nd round talent but I could see a team reaching for him in the 1st to acquire his 5th year option.

It doesn't really make a difference but Penix was at Indiana before transferring to Washington, not Illinois.

It does if you live in Indiana.

[blemly]

Does anyone have any substantive thoughts on Jermaine Burton? Usually Bama’s leading WR garners more attention than he has (and that likely means he isn’t anything special) but I’m curious if anyone thinks differently.

Reminds me of a Marvin Jones type of WR. I don't think he's anything special, but could see him being a solid third or fourth WR for a team.

Pretty wide margin between being M Jones and a team’s 3rd/4th WR. When Jones was on his game he was soaking up 100+ targets for 60+ catches, 950-1000 yds and 5-9 TDs - and he did it pretty consistently for a few years running. A Jones type WR is pretty good ROI for any late 1st round pick or later in FF.

I would be ecstatic if he turned into 85% of MJ.

[FantasyFreak]

How can Bama not be in the top 4 now?

[KingsKing]

How can Bama not be in the top 4 now?

They can’t be ahead of Michigan and Washington , how can they be ahead of Texas if Texas beat them? Ohio’s only loss was a close one to number 1 Michigan , if FSU ends up 13-0 how are they gonna jump an unbeaten team? Just gave you a few how’s

[81-]

They'll be number four, ga five and the buckeyes six.

Ga Ohio rematch?

[tstafford]

They'll be number four, ga five and the buckeyes six.

Ga Ohio rematch?

My guess is OSU is outside the top-6.

I guess it sort of all comes down to what they do with FSU. Seems kind of BS to penalize them for losing their QB since they still finished undefeated! But I guess Alabama will be the #4 team and FSU will be outside looking in (at 5 or 6). Just one more example of why this system doesn't quite work.

Would love to see OSU vs. GA but my bet is OSU will get Oregon. The old B10 / P10 thing.

[Anteaters]

If Alabama gets in, if any SEC team gets in, this will be the last nail in the coffin for me not giving a dram about college football standings/playoffs. It's always been all about the $, but capitulating to the SEC by unjustly putting one of its teams in over any of The Deserving Four would be a blatant disrespect for what sports is supposed to be about.

It's time to create a new Semi-Pro Collegiate football league. The teams that are going all-in for NIL dollars should just start their own league of 20 teams.