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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:40 pm

Mike11 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:06 am Warren is JAG city, someone had a great stat on how predictable the Pittsburgh offense was running on first down and on highly predicted runs Najee has had a better YPC than Warren when running on first.

Some people don’t want to accept that some of Warrens success comes from teams just not having a high focus on stopping him when he’s in (assuming he’s not getting the ball). People REALLY want to make him a thing and call it a day for Najee. My analysis is Najee is likely to rise from the RB18-22 value we see him at now but the community is way too soured on him to ever see him as a top 10 dynasty asset or top 10 dynasty RB again. If you can get him as a RB2 with good job security you should. I still can’t imagine someone selling for less than a first but I’m sure some want out at any cost.
Apparently so do the Steelers. Warren looks pretty versatile, to me. He's not an elite talent, but he's good at quite a few things.

Also want to point out the NFL took 100 K from this kid, a UDFA, for this.

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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby Bronco Billy » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:42 am

Mike11 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:06 am Warren is JAG city, someone had a great stat on how predictable the Pittsburgh offense was running on first down and on highly predicted runs Najee has had a better YPC than Warren when running on first.

Some people don’t want to accept that some of Warrens success comes from teams just not having a high focus on stopping him when he’s in (assuming he’s not getting the ball). People REALLY want to make him a thing and call it a day for Najee. My analysis is Najee is likely to rise from the RB18-22 value we see him at now but the community is way too soured on him to ever see him as a top 10 dynasty asset or top 10 dynasty RB again. If you can get him as a RB2 with good job security you should. I still can’t imagine someone selling for less than a first but I’m sure some want out at any cost.
They aren’t focusing on Warren because they’re so worried about Pickett? You’ve got to do better than that, because that dog don’t hunt.

The simple fact is that Harris is a mediocre RB who gets what is blocked and little more. That’s exactly what he was coming out of college and nothing has changed. He cannot create for himself at all. He’s a career sub-4.0 ypa RB whose calling card is that he can manage large volumes of workload. He’s tailor made for RBBC as a plodder that wears down Ds for a better but less durable back, with the problem being that he doesn’t keep the O on schedule when he does get a lot of work.

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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:31 am

Warren is definitely better than a JAG. That title is reserved for the Eno Benjamins and Chase Edmonds. Warren has the juice and even looks better than Najee. I have liked him as a stash for a while, but hard to trust with Najee still getting 50% of the work

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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:34 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:42 am
Mike11 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:06 am Warren is JAG city, someone had a great stat on how predictable the Pittsburgh offense was running on first down and on highly predicted runs Najee has had a better YPC than Warren when running on first.

Some people don’t want to accept that some of Warrens success comes from teams just not having a high focus on stopping him when he’s in (assuming he’s not getting the ball). People REALLY want to make him a thing and call it a day for Najee. My analysis is Najee is likely to rise from the RB18-22 value we see him at now but the community is way too soured on him to ever see him as a top 10 dynasty asset or top 10 dynasty RB again. If you can get him as a RB2 with good job security you should. I still can’t imagine someone selling for less than a first but I’m sure some want out at any cost.
They aren’t focusing on Warren because they’re so worried about Pickett? You’ve got to do better than that, because that dog don’t hunt.

The simple fact is that Harris is a mediocre RB who gets what is blocked and little more. That’s exactly what he was coming out of college and nothing has changed. He cannot create for himself at all. He’s a career sub-4.0 ypa RB whose calling card is that he can manage large volumes of workload. He’s tailor made for RBBC as a plodder that wears down Ds for a better but less durable back, with the problem being that he doesn’t keep the O on schedule when he does get a lot of work.
Yup, reminds me of Zeke/Pollard a bit. Except Najee is there to stay and its just going to be pain for fantasy

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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:48 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:42 am
Mike11 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:06 am Warren is JAG city, someone had a great stat on how predictable the Pittsburgh offense was running on first down and on highly predicted runs Najee has had a better YPC than Warren when running on first.

Some people don’t want to accept that some of Warrens success comes from teams just not having a high focus on stopping him when he’s in (assuming he’s not getting the ball). People REALLY want to make him a thing and call it a day for Najee. My analysis is Najee is likely to rise from the RB18-22 value we see him at now but the community is way too soured on him to ever see him as a top 10 dynasty asset or top 10 dynasty RB again. If you can get him as a RB2 with good job security you should. I still can’t imagine someone selling for less than a first but I’m sure some want out at any cost.
They aren’t focusing on Warren because they’re so worried about Pickett? You’ve got to do better than that, because that dog don’t hunt.

The simple fact is that Harris is a mediocre RB who gets what is blocked and little more. That’s exactly what he was coming out of college and nothing has changed. He cannot create for himself at all. He’s a career sub-4.0 ypa RB whose calling card is that he can manage large volumes of workload. He’s tailor made for RBBC as a plodder that wears down Ds for a better but less durable back, with the problem being that he doesn’t keep the O on schedule when he does get a lot of work.
I think as of last week he was getting exactly what was expected. No more, no less. Najee is a falling knife.
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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby gpaok » Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:07 am

At some point shouldn’t Warren get more Carries?

I know some RBs are better second fiddle or being backups but this has been crazy this year in PIT. Anyone else feel the same?
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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:31 am

gpaok wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:07 am At some point shouldn’t Warren get more Carries?

I know some RBs are better second fiddle or being backups but this has been crazy this year in PIT. Anyone else feel the same?
It's been this way for a while

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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby gpaok » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:52 am

Jigga94 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:31 am
It's been this way for a while
After last game’s interviews maybe Harris gets the Pickens treatment.
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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby Needalife » Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:18 pm

Really like what I've seen from Warren all year long. It's really just a matter of touches which may happen more in the later part of the year or moreso next year. I'm a huge Najee fan but I have to admit that he has lost a step. He's running hard but his quickness and explosiveness just aren't there for some reason. I thought Najee was great in the back half of last season too. Total bummer but also excited to see what Warren can become. Warren's explosiveness is soooo visible every week.
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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby DinoDynasty » Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:50 pm

Jaylen Warren = James Robinson
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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:58 pm

DinoDynasty wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:50 pm Jaylen Warren = James Robinson
In what way?
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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby mild » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:02 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:58 pm
DinoDynasty wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:50 pm Jaylen Warren = James Robinson
In what way?
He's more like a Gen-Z Austin Ekeler to me.

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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:06 pm

mild wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:02 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:58 pm
DinoDynasty wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:50 pm Jaylen Warren = James Robinson
In what way?
He's more like a Gen-Z Austin Ekeler to me.
Yeah, I mean I don't see him hitting the lofty heights Ekeler did, for FF, but he's definitely not a volume dependent guy. He's a plus receiver, and is elusive, and can create on his own. Being stuck with Pickett is a problem, as it is for every Steeler. However I think he's going to get used over the course of his rookie deal, as we are seeing now. I think 12-15 touches or so are perfect for him, and he's shown he can produce with that.
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Re: Jaylen Warren PIT RB

Postby mild » Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:15 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:06 pm Yeah, I mean I don't see him hitting the lofty heights Ekeler did, for FF, but he's definitely not a volume dependent guy. He's a plus receiver, and is elusive, and can create on his own. Being stuck with Pickett is a problem, as it is for every Steeler. However I think he's going to get used over the course of his rookie deal, as we are seeing now. I think 12-15 touches or so are perfect for him, and he's shown he can produce with that.
Jaylen's actually on pace for a 194 touch season, which is pretty good for a 2nd year player.

Ekeler didn't hit 200+ touches until his 3rd season with the Chargers (224).

In Ekeler's 2nd season he had 145 touches for 958 scrimmage yards.

Jaylen actually out-pacing him currently with 114 touches for 727 scrimmage yards, and 7 games still to play in his 2nd season.

Jaylen Warren is Gen-Z Austin Ekeler.


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