CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:29 am

Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:19 am
ButtFumbleCity wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:36 am
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ROY by a mile at this point.

Nice Rookie record of 470 with 5 TD's and no picks. That record should hold up for years. :clap:
Unless he beats it himself in the next 9 games.
That's very very possible.
:lol: It's really not likely.
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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby Anteaters » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:29 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:19 am
ButtFumbleCity wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:36 am

Unless he beats it himself in the next 9 games.
That's very very possible.
:lol: It's really not likely.
I agree it is not likely.
But given the way Stroud has performed so far, it is very possible
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:44 am

Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:29 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:19 am
That's very very possible.
:lol: It's really not likely.
I agree it is not likely.
But given the way Stroud has performed so far, it is very possible
OK. The 2nd very made me think you thought this was probable. There's a real good chance this is his career game, too.
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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby JoeJoe88 » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:39 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:44 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:29 am

:lol: It's really not likely.
I agree it is not likely.
But given the way Stroud has performed so far, it is very possible
OK. The 2nd very made me think you thought this was probable. There's a real good chance this is his career game, too.
To be fair, this would be most qbs career game. And most of them probably wouldn’t do it in their 8th ever start.

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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:47 pm

JoeJoe88 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:39 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:44 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 am
I agree it is not likely.
But given the way Stroud has performed so far, it is very possible
OK. The 2nd very made me think you thought this was probable. There's a real good chance this is his career game, too.
To be fair, this would be most qbs career game. And most of them probably wouldn’t do it in their 8th ever start.
I realize this, which adds to the likelihood it's also his. It's just like the Achane game, which I also said was likely his career game. I am aware. It's just the probability. It's not taking away from what they did. The expectation that a game like this is duplicated, should be low, that's all.
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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby mild » Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:01 pm

Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:29 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:19 am
That's very very possible.
:lol: It's really not likely.
I agree it is not likely.
But given the way Stroud has performed so far, it is very possible
"Performed so far" doing some tremedous lifting here.

CJ Stroud QB finishes Weeks 1-9:

QB22
QB13
QB12
QB10
QB17
QB12
BYE
QB23
QB1

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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby Anteaters » Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:55 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:44 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:29 am

:lol: It's really not likely.
I agree it is not likely.
But given the way Stroud has performed so far, it is very possible
OK. The 2nd very made me think you thought this was probable. There's a real good chance this is his career game, too.
:lol: Yeah, that second "very" was probably misleading.

Even if this game is the best fantasy game of his career, I think the game bodes well for his career turning out better than most of the QBs active today.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby Anteaters » Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:01 pm

mild wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:01 pm
Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:30 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:29 am

:lol: It's really not likely.
I agree it is not likely.
But given the way Stroud has performed so far, it is very possible
"Performed so far" doing some tremedous lifting here.

CJ Stroud QB finishes Weeks 1-9:

QB22
QB13
QB12
QB10
QB17
QB12
BYE
QB23
QB1

:lol:
I don't look only at weekly finishes to make my decisions. That is one possible factor but there is a bigger picture available for us than that.

For instance, I consider his completion pct, low interception pct, his composure under different situations, the wins he's led his team to, roster composition, coaches ... and more. Some rookie QBs match him in some areas, and fall short in others. But taking all the metrics into account, and not ignoring his record breaking game this week, I have a good idea of where I think his potential lies.

I don't think it's important you agree. We all rate players differently and that's great. If you use weekly finishes as the primary component to rank rookie QBs, I think that's great for you.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby mild » Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:05 pm

Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:01 pm I don't think it's important you agree. We all rate players differently and that's great. If you use weekly finishes as the primary component to rank rookie QBs, I think that's great for you.
For sure, and I personally think it's great that you'd take him over Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow in a Dynasty startup.

So we're both happy for each other here.

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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby Anteaters » Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:10 pm

mild wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:05 pm
Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:01 pm I don't think it's important you agree. We all rate players differently and that's great. If you use weekly finishes as the primary component to rank rookie QBs, I think that's great for you.
For sure, and I personally think it's great that you'd take him over Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow in a Dynasty startup.

So we're both happy for each other here.
I never said I'd take Stroud over Hurts. :think:
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser

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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby mild » Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:17 pm

Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:10 pm
mild wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:05 pm
Anteaters wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:01 pm I don't think it's important you agree. We all rate players differently and that's great. If you use weekly finishes as the primary component to rank rookie QBs, I think that's great for you.
For sure, and I personally think it's great that you'd take him over Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow in a Dynasty startup.

So we're both happy for each other here.
I never said I'd take Stroud over Hurts. :think:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=239648&p=2225982#p2225924

My mistake, you'd rather take CJ Stroud over Josh Allen.

Even better. :lol:

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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:32 pm

Texans are 4-4 right now. If they make the playoffs, I think Stroud is a legit MVP candidate as it stands right now. He should be anyways, really.
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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby chubnubbin » Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:17 am

To the moon.

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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby Two Cents » Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:41 pm

Mahomes’ 12th career game was his career game

478 yards - 6 TDs and 3 INTs

Too bad that wasn’t his real rookie season….has only come close a handful of times since, let alone in the same year. In fact Mahomes has averaged 2 400 yards passing games per year since the first year he did it.
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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Postby Anteaters » Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:47 am

CBS Sports wrote:His 8.5 air yards per pass attempt are the fifth-most in the NFL entering Week 10
his 14-1 touchdown-to interception ratio leads the NFL entering Week 10
his 102.9 passer rating is the fourth-highest in the league entering Week 10.
he's the only player ranking top five in both categories (Air Yards and INT%) this year.
Just read this and I was genuinely stunned. I thought I'd kept up with all the fantastic stuff CJS has done this season, but these are some lofty metrics halfway through his rookie season.

Being 5th, 1st and 4th in these (and ranking high in other areas) indicates to me that CJS is going to be able to keep it going for the rest of the season and off into future seasons. :dance: party over here!
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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