Quentin Johnston vS tank dell

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Quentin Johnston vS tank dell

Postby jponte3 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:00 am

Just curious how close in value people feel these 2 are? QJ is obviously a big faller to this point and tank has looked good with his opportunities. Specifically on a team building more for next year and beyond, how close do you feel these are and what type of package would you be willing to do if moving qj in a tank deal.
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12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft

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Re: Quentin Johnston vS tank dell

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:05 am

I sent out an offer a few days ago of QJ for Dell and Im waiting to hear back.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Quentin Johnston vS tank dell

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:13 am

I think both are gambles in their own rate long term. Johnston I would lean for consistency hope in time. Dell has the massive ceiling but could be a boom or bust type.

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Re: Quentin Johnston vS tank dell

Postby BabyChark23 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:20 am

I’d smash Dell side on this. I think you have to add something significant to get from QJ to Dell.

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Re: Quentin Johnston vS tank dell

Postby Anteaters » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:55 am

I was a QJ stan after the NFL draft. I was very high on Dell in the preseason. I have QB on my team 1, and Dell on my team 2.

I maintain hope QJ is a slow grower, but I'm all in on Dell. I'd never trade my Dell for QJ. On the other hand, if I had an offer of Dell for my QJ, that's a smash accept for me.

The difference is Dell has proven he has NFL quality skills. QJ has not. When both guys have been in the NFL for the same length of time, that's an easy decision for me to make.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser

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Re: Quentin Johnston vS tank dell

Postby TheTroll » Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:26 pm

Anteaters wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:55 am I was a QJ stan after the NFL draft. I was very high on Dell in the preseason. I have QB on my team 1, and Dell on my team 2.

I maintain hope QJ is a slow grower, but I'm all in on Dell. I'd never trade my Dell for QJ. On the other hand, if I had an offer of Dell for my QJ, that's a smash accept for me.

The difference is Dell has proven he has NFL quality skills. QJ has not. When both guys have been in the NFL for the same length of time, that's an easy decision for me to make.
True but it’s early and Dell is on a team with no options. Not saying Dell isn’t great, just don’t discount QJ because of who is ahead of him
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Quentin Johnston vS tank dell

Postby Anteaters » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:59 pm

TheTroll wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:26 pm
Anteaters wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:55 am I was a QJ stan after the NFL draft. I was very high on Dell in the preseason. I have QB on my team 1, and Dell on my team 2.

I maintain hope QJ is a slow grower, but I'm all in on Dell. I'd never trade my Dell for QJ. On the other hand, if I had an offer of Dell for my QJ, that's a smash accept for me.

The difference is Dell has proven he has NFL quality skills. QJ has not. When both guys have been in the NFL for the same length of time, that's an easy decision for me to make.
True but it’s early and Dell is on a team with no options. Not saying Dell isn’t great, just don’t discount QJ because of who is ahead of him
I'm not completely writing off QJ. I still think he could turn it around and be a good fantasy player. Could. But I'm not certain, because he was given a golden opportunity (great QB arm, good offense, injured WR ahead of him on depth chart) and he can't even average two catch per game (or 10 yards/gm) in five weeks. That's a red flag I can't ignore. I think he has a chance, but he sure hasn't proven anything yet. Dell has proven something.

In a 1:1 comparison between QB:Dell, based on the first third of the season it's an easy decision for me to choose Dell.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Quentin Johnston vS tank dell

Postby IR1 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:55 pm

I’m not writing off QJ, but I waited a long time on guys like Harry and Treadwell. Would have liked to have seen a little flash
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston


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