Hurts for ARich (poll)
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Hurts for ARich (poll)
I am contending and trading with a rebuilder. I own the Richardson side in a SF.
10 Team. SF PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Jalen Hurts. Dak Prescott. Justin Herbert. Geno Smith.
RB - Saquon Barkley. Austin Ekeler. Tony Pollard. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Khalil Herbert.
WR - AJ Brown. Amon Ra St Brown. DJ Moore. Chris Godwin. Keenan Allen. Amari Cooper. Curtis Samuel. Adam Thielen.
TE - Evan Engram. Dallas Goedert. Darren Waller.
2024, 2025, 2026 - no firsts, no seconds, numerous 3rds, 4ths, 5ths.
QB - Jalen Hurts. Dak Prescott. Justin Herbert. Geno Smith.
RB - Saquon Barkley. Austin Ekeler. Tony Pollard. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Khalil Herbert.
WR - AJ Brown. Amon Ra St Brown. DJ Moore. Chris Godwin. Keenan Allen. Amari Cooper. Curtis Samuel. Adam Thielen.
TE - Evan Engram. Dallas Goedert. Darren Waller.
2024, 2025, 2026 - no firsts, no seconds, numerous 3rds, 4ths, 5ths.
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Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
This is my first year of SF and not too sure on the values yet. Seems expensive for Hurts especially with the top 5 first in 2024.
10 Team. SF PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Jalen Hurts. Dak Prescott. Justin Herbert. Geno Smith.
RB - Saquon Barkley. Austin Ekeler. Tony Pollard. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Khalil Herbert.
WR - AJ Brown. Amon Ra St Brown. DJ Moore. Chris Godwin. Keenan Allen. Amari Cooper. Curtis Samuel. Adam Thielen.
TE - Evan Engram. Dallas Goedert. Darren Waller.
2024, 2025, 2026 - no firsts, no seconds, numerous 3rds, 4ths, 5ths.
QB - Jalen Hurts. Dak Prescott. Justin Herbert. Geno Smith.
RB - Saquon Barkley. Austin Ekeler. Tony Pollard. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Khalil Herbert.
WR - AJ Brown. Amon Ra St Brown. DJ Moore. Chris Godwin. Keenan Allen. Amari Cooper. Curtis Samuel. Adam Thielen.
TE - Evan Engram. Dallas Goedert. Darren Waller.
2024, 2025, 2026 - no firsts, no seconds, numerous 3rds, 4ths, 5ths.
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Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
For me it is Hurts side right now.
I would need that 24 1st to be top 3 to swing me over to ARich side today.
Right now, Hurts is a top 2-3 QB in SF.
Hurts is what everyone hopes that ARich can be, but though ARich has put up good fantasy numbers, his real life numbers are not as good.
Sure, it's only been 5 games, I get that, but now he is out again with injury for the 2nd time in 5 weeks, and this time the injury timeout is unknown.
So ARich side has the potential to be better, but still has potential to be worse too, IMO.
I would need that 24 1st to be top 3 to swing me over to ARich side today.
Right now, Hurts is a top 2-3 QB in SF.
Hurts is what everyone hopes that ARich can be, but though ARich has put up good fantasy numbers, his real life numbers are not as good.
Sure, it's only been 5 games, I get that, but now he is out again with injury for the 2nd time in 5 weeks, and this time the injury timeout is unknown.
So ARich side has the potential to be better, but still has potential to be worse too, IMO.
Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
I’d hold Arich side.. it gives a bunch of outs to be the winning side
TEAM 1
12 Team Half PPR Superflex ..1Qb , 2Rb, 3Wr,1 Te, 2Flex 1Superflex 1Def
QBs: Dak,PenixBurrow
RBS: Bijan,Pacheco,Corum,GibsonDillon,Penny,Ty Chandler,
WR:Lamb,Chase,AJB,Olave,Tee,DJM,Boyd
TE McBride,Geseiki
DEF Eagles, Broncos,
12 Team Half PPR Superflex ..1Qb , 2Rb, 3Wr,1 Te, 2Flex 1Superflex 1Def
QBs: Dak,PenixBurrow
RBS: Bijan,Pacheco,Corum,GibsonDillon,Penny,Ty Chandler,
WR:Lamb,Chase,AJB,Olave,Tee,DJM,Boyd
TE McBride,Geseiki
DEF Eagles, Broncos,
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Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
Roll with Geno. Getting a bunch of IR stuff outside of Hurts does nothing. I don't like the idea of giving up that first. DK is a starter for you, and losing him drops your WR scoring, despite Hurts boosting your QB scoring. I just don't like it. A Rich will be back, and that first, is a really good piece to win later, as well as now. DK is in his prime, Diontae seems to be in decline, and really isn't a great talent.
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Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
It's pricey if the 1st ends up early on value, but Richardson has a long way to go to be in Hurts league in dynasty. Two injuries already and heading to IR...major red flags. He is fair from polished anyway before the early injuries.
I would see if a different secondary piece is an option though or tone down your give side a bit.
I would see if a different secondary piece is an option though or tone down your give side a bit.
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Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
My thoughts exactly. DK on the ARich and 1st side was a non starter for meFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:27 pm Roll with Geno. Getting a bunch of IR stuff outside of Hurts does nothing. I don't like the idea of giving up that first. DK is a starter for you, and losing him drops your WR scoring, despite Hurts boosting your QB scoring. I just don't like it. A Rich will be back, and that first, is a really good piece to win later, as well as now. DK is in his prime, Diontae seems to be in decline, and really isn't a great talent.
Team 1
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.04, 1.05, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early), 1st (early), 1st (mid)
Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, MHJ, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Brooks, Ekeler
T: Andrews, Granson
Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.04, 1.05, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early), 1st (early), 1st (mid)
Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, MHJ, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Brooks, Ekeler
T: Andrews, Granson
Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
Hurts is a significant upgrade to AR. While pricey, I can see why someone would ask for this in return.
To me this deal comes down to two things:
How early is that first? If it's looking likely to be top-3, this is too expensive by a good bit. If it's later than that, less so. I generally dislike trying to predict where picks land but we are now fairly deep in to the season and can start to speculate w/ some accuracy.
DK - some folks just don't like him. I find that the DLF community (esp. the DLF analysts) are higher on DK than the broader FF world. If you are a DK skeptic, then this deal looks more attractive. The drop to Diontae may not be that huge.
I'm not doing this deal as is, but I get it.
To me this deal comes down to two things:
How early is that first? If it's looking likely to be top-3, this is too expensive by a good bit. If it's later than that, less so. I generally dislike trying to predict where picks land but we are now fairly deep in to the season and can start to speculate w/ some accuracy.
DK - some folks just don't like him. I find that the DLF community (esp. the DLF analysts) are higher on DK than the broader FF world. If you are a DK skeptic, then this deal looks more attractive. The drop to Diontae may not be that huge.
I'm not doing this deal as is, but I get it.
Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
Rebuilding option 1
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
Gator Sens wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:52 pm It's pricey if the 1st ends up early on value, but Richardson has a long way to go to be in Hurts league in dynasty. Two injuries already and heading to IR...major red flags. He is fair from polished anyway before the early injuries.
I would see if a different secondary piece is an option though or tone down your give side a bit.
This is how I feel about Richardson.
If competing, I'd take Hurts side. But I'd try to adjust trade a little if possible.
Team 1. 12 team. 1 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2017 2nd, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2022 1st
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5
Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5
Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5
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Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
hurts pretty easily for me. richardson is a huge projection and isnt proving to be reliable or durable at all
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
Any new thoughts now that ARich is out for the season? The other owner would take Deebo over DK.
10 Team. SF PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Jalen Hurts. Dak Prescott. Justin Herbert. Geno Smith.
RB - Saquon Barkley. Austin Ekeler. Tony Pollard. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Khalil Herbert.
WR - AJ Brown. Amon Ra St Brown. DJ Moore. Chris Godwin. Keenan Allen. Amari Cooper. Curtis Samuel. Adam Thielen.
TE - Evan Engram. Dallas Goedert. Darren Waller.
2024, 2025, 2026 - no firsts, no seconds, numerous 3rds, 4ths, 5ths.
QB - Jalen Hurts. Dak Prescott. Justin Herbert. Geno Smith.
RB - Saquon Barkley. Austin Ekeler. Tony Pollard. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Khalil Herbert.
WR - AJ Brown. Amon Ra St Brown. DJ Moore. Chris Godwin. Keenan Allen. Amari Cooper. Curtis Samuel. Adam Thielen.
TE - Evan Engram. Dallas Goedert. Darren Waller.
2024, 2025, 2026 - no firsts, no seconds, numerous 3rds, 4ths, 5ths.
Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
I think I’d have to do it with Deebo in instead. He has trouble staying on the field as well and is older. The upgrade to Hurts and having him and Herbert would be worth it, even in a 10-team SF.PhillySpecial wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:14 pm Any new thoughts now that ARich is out for the season? The other owner would take Deebo over DK.
Wasteland
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, B. Hall, D. Henry, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson, M. Sanders, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP
WR AJ Brown, J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, B. Mayfield, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
1.03, 2.03, 2.06, 3.05, 4.06
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, B. Hall, D. Henry, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson, M. Sanders, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP
WR AJ Brown, J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, B. Mayfield, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
1.03, 2.03, 2.06, 3.05, 4.06
Re: Hurts for ARich (poll)
I think you can survive with Geno, but to pair Hurts with Herbert would be great long term. I think to trade away a unproven young qb who is done for the year and land a more proven qb on a much more stable offense is big. I'd go for it. I'm also not a fan of ARich, he may be good for fantasy for a few year, but I'm not sure he will make it as a passer in the NFL.
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10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
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