The Official Brock Purdy Thread
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I think it's fair to wonder if long-term Purdy is the type of QB who can elevate an offense that isn't as talented as this one. Though, the 49ers are still a couple of years away from that being something they need to think about. There's a very short list of QBs who can do a whole lot with a whole lot less.
That said, he put them in position to win the game even after his worst game as a pro and in conditions that weren't favorable and against a defense that has been executing at an elite level this season.
That said, he put them in position to win the game even after his worst game as a pro and in conditions that weren't favorable and against a defense that has been executing at an elite level this season.
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Some seem to lose sight that Purdy is still an unfinished product. He’s in his sophomore season and is still 6 starts short of a cumulative full season. You know he wasn’t getting a lot of reps in the first 2/3rds of the season last year. There’s still a lot of potential improvement that can occur.
You can count on one hand the number of NFL QBs drafted very low in the draft and then stepping up to perform in a manner like he has to date.
You can count on one hand the number of NFL QBs drafted very low in the draft and then stepping up to perform in a manner like he has to date.
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yeah, it's a good point. all the talk in the off-season was about "regression or keeping it up", never a mention of possible improvement.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:51 am Some seem to lose sight that Purdy is still an unfinished product. He’s in his sophomore season and is still 6 starts short of a cumulative full season. You know he wasn’t getting a lot of reps in the first 2/3rds of the season last year. There’s still a lot of potential improvement that can occur.
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Re: The Official Brock Purdy Thread
The weather, and Purdy's smallish hands definitely had an effect. It was his worst game as a pro. They still should have won the game, too.
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Re: The Official Brock Purdy Thread
I love when a consensus of fantasy managers continually doubt a very good fantasy player. It makes it easier for me to assemble winning teams.
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Re: The Official Brock Purdy Thread
He lost both Deebo and CMC in that game. That hurt a ton. Purdy isn't a player to worry about when his team is healthy but like most QB's in the league it will matter when 2 of their top 4 weapons are on the sidelines. He was a borderline QB 1 with all his weapons but , outside of a few wishful thinkers around here, I don't think anyone was really thinking he is will be a top 5 QB at this point.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:14 am I think it's fair to wonder if long-term Purdy is the type of QB who can elevate an offense that isn't as talented as this one. Though, the 49ers are still a couple of years away from that being something they need to think about. There's a very short list of QBs who can do a whole lot with a whole lot less.
That said, he put them in position to win the game even after his worst game as a pro and in conditions that weren't favorable and against a defense that has been executing at an elite level this season.
He had a bad game. He will have more bad games. All good NFL QB's have them.
Fantasy wise, Purdy was 10th in PPr through 5 weeks, He is now 14th through 6 weeks.
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I didn't realize this, but it's actually historic. They've allowed the third fewest total yards to start the season through five games in NFL history. That's better than the Niners defense in 2012, better than the LOB, better than the Ravens defense that won a Super Bowl, and better than the 85 Bears. Holy bleep.brward wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:52 pm Meh Brock had a bad game against a really good defense, playing in the rain, and losing two of his better weapons. It happens. I think the MVP talk was overblown but people pointing to one bad and saying ‘I told you so’ is also an overreaction. 2nd year 7th round pick Brock is at worst an above average QB with room to grow. Remember he still hasn’t had a full off season with starter reps.
As a known Purdy lover and defender, I gotta agree with you on this. He didn't have the ability to rally the troops and elevate the level of player to the players around him when the going got tough. He did it before in games where he had to play from behind (Dolphins & Raiders) but not in a game with a relentless defense and terrible weather conditions.Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:06 pm I think people are missing the point with Purdy. Yes, Hurts had a horrible game today, just like Josh Allen had a horrible game in Week 1 vs. the Jets. But both of those guys have shown the ability to carry their teams to victory is adverse conditions. Purdy hasn’t shown that yet. Even though he only threw one int today, Purdy looked completely outmatched without Deebo & CMC.
Purdy wanted to scramble nearly every time he dropped back. You cannot take 7 step drops against this defense, and when you lose your top two targets, it gets even worse.
That said, he still played better than Garoppolo would have, he still put the 49ers in position to win, and winning ugly games is a sign of a great team. A made kick at the end and we're having a different kind of a conversation imo, and that missed kick is not on him. Neither were any of the penalties, nor the several dropped passes.
Blame Shanny for the bad play calls and the lack of guts to run a freaking play with 40 seconds left to get closer to the uprights... what the heck, Shanny!? What the hecking heck!?
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Re: The Official Brock Purdy Thread
Didn’t the 49ers lose by missing a field goal towards the end of the game ?agreed not the best day for purdybut he still had them in a position to win at the end .
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Re: The Official Brock Purdy Thread
Refs helped put them in a position to win on that last drive ( as in so many cases) when the drive was actually stopped but Purdy did complete a cpl to Ayiuk under pressure. But he and the team were abysmal in the passing game the 2nd half. It happens, need to see more situations where he has to overcome adversity to see if he is a clutch player or just a product of a great system & situation
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you could say the same about Hurst , lamar or just about any QB IMO. That was said about Cousin for years how over rated he was only to do it almost every year. I just see a very good QB in the making limitations absolutely but very few QBs does not have some kind of limitations. He just wins most of his games with the aid of his team sure. Agreed we do need to see more but i like what I see ,i would Glady take purdy over DAk, we seen what dak can do and its not any better than for sure.cazzie33 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:36 pmRefs helped put them in a position to win on that last drive ( as in so many cases) when the drive was actually stopped but Purdy did complete a cpl to Ayiuk under pressure. But he and the team were abysmal in the passing game the 2nd half. It happens, need to see more situations where he has to overcome adversity to see if he is a clutch player or just a product of a great system & situation
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Hurts & Lamar are on a completely different level. Despite any flaws they have, they can both can carry a team to victory. Purdy clearly does not have the physical gifts to do that. Kirk is more talented physically than Purdy, but is nowhere near as good at processing or playing to the occasion. It's clear what Purdy is ... he's a good to great field general, but lacks skills to win when things break down.Tvols wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:46 amyou could say the same about Hurst , lamar or just about any QB IMO. That was said about Cousin for years how over rated he was only to do it almost every year. I just see a very good QB in the making limitations absolutely but very few QBs does not have some kind of limitations. He just wins most of his games with the aid of his team sure. Agreed we do need to see more but i like what I see ,i would Glady take purdy over DAk, we seen what dak can do and its not any better than for sure.cazzie33 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:36 pmRefs helped put them in a position to win on that last drive ( as in so many cases) when the drive was actually stopped but Purdy did complete a cpl to Ayiuk under pressure. But he and the team were abysmal in the passing game the 2nd half. It happens, need to see more situations where he has to overcome adversity to see if he is a clutch player or just a product of a great system & situation
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We've seen Purdy make a lot of really good plays outside of the play structure when things break down. Recall when he basically ran sideline to sideline and hit Aiyuk in the back of the endzone with a dime of a throw and Aiyuk dropped it? That was Mahomes level improv. I get where you're coming from. You want to see Purdy excel in some more adverse situations late in games. I do too. I'm just going to give him a pass on this one. Losing a lot of talent on offense mid game, against an elite defense, in the wind and rain.Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:06 amHurts & Lamar are on a completely different level. Despite any flaws they have, they can both can carry a team to victory. Purdy clearly does not have the physical gifts to do that. Kirk is more talented physically than Purdy, but is nowhere near as good at processing or playing to the occasion. It's clear what Purdy is ... he's a good to great field general, but lacks skills to win when things break down.Tvols wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:46 amyou could say the same about Hurst , lamar or just about any QB IMO. That was said about Cousin for years how over rated he was only to do it almost every year. I just see a very good QB in the making limitations absolutely but very few QBs does not have some kind of limitations. He just wins most of his games with the aid of his team sure. Agreed we do need to see more but i like what I see ,i would Glady take purdy over DAk, we seen what dak can do and its not any better than for sure.cazzie33 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:36 pm
Refs helped put them in a position to win on that last drive ( as in so many cases) when the drive was actually stopped but Purdy did complete a cpl to Ayiuk under pressure. But he and the team were abysmal in the passing game the 2nd half. It happens, need to see more situations where he has to overcome adversity to see if he is a clutch player or just a product of a great system & situation
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I take issue with this...Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:06 amHurts & Lamar are on a completely different level. Despite any flaws they have, they can both can carry a team to victory. Purdy clearly does not have the physical gifts to do that. Kirk is more talented physically than Purdy, but is nowhere near as good at processing or playing to the occasion. It's clear what Purdy is ... he's a good to great field general, but lacks skills to win when things break down.Tvols wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:46 amyou could say the same about Hurst , lamar or just about any QB IMO. That was said about Cousin for years how over rated he was only to do it almost every year. I just see a very good QB in the making limitations absolutely but very few QBs does not have some kind of limitations. He just wins most of his games with the aid of his team sure. Agreed we do need to see more but i like what I see ,i would Glady take purdy over DAk, we seen what dak can do and its not any better than for sure.cazzie33 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:36 pm
Refs helped put them in a position to win on that last drive ( as in so many cases) when the drive was actually stopped but Purdy did complete a cpl to Ayiuk under pressure. But he and the team were abysmal in the passing game the 2nd half. It happens, need to see more situations where he has to overcome adversity to see if he is a clutch player or just a product of a great system & situation
Even taking the argument that no, Purdy doesn't have Lamar's ability to break a big run, to say he can't carry his team to victory...just seems like searching for something to dislike.
Perhaps...maybe...someday...people will accept that some QBs carry their team to victory by MAKING the consistent, reliable plays. Between a QB that is more mistake prone but can also play hero ball, and a QB that carries his team by simply being consistently effective, give me the consistently effective. Will Purdy be that? I dunno. So far it seems that he is developing that way.
Cam Newton was the ultimate HERO BALL QB. Tom Brady was the ultimate CONSISTENTLY SMART DECISIONS QB. Cam was certainly the more unreal specimen of an athlete as far as what we measure/the wow highlights. That doesn't mean he was more athletic at being a QB than Brady was though. Maybe Purdy falls into that Brady archetype. Maybe he'll be a Chad Pennington (that hopefully has a healthier career) but maybe he can be significantly more. He's certainly on track to be.
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Purdy: 6'1, 212, 4.83 40Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:06 amHurts & Lamar are on a completely different level. Despite any flaws they have, they can both can carry a team to victory. Purdy clearly does not have the physical gifts to do that. Kirk is more talented physically than Purdy, but is nowhere near as good at processing or playing to the occasion. It's clear what Purdy is ... he's a good to great field general, but lacks skills to win when things break down.Tvols wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:46 amyou could say the same about Hurst , lamar or just about any QB IMO. That was said about Cousin for years how over rated he was only to do it almost every year. I just see a very good QB in the making limitations absolutely but very few QBs does not have some kind of limitations. He just wins most of his games with the aid of his team sure. Agreed we do need to see more but i like what I see ,i would Glady take purdy over DAk, we seen what dak can do and its not any better than for sure.cazzie33 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:36 pm
Refs helped put them in a position to win on that last drive ( as in so many cases) when the drive was actually stopped but Purdy did complete a cpl to Ayiuk under pressure. But he and the team were abysmal in the passing game the 2nd half. It happens, need to see more situations where he has to overcome adversity to see if he is a clutch player or just a product of a great system & situation
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Oh, I forgot that Purdy was the first QB to fall to the 7th round with no discernible flaws. He pisses excellence. He cannot fail; he can only be failed.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:44 pmPurdy: 6'1, 212, 4.83 40Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:06 amHurts & Lamar are on a completely different level. Despite any flaws they have, they can both can carry a team to victory. Purdy clearly does not have the physical gifts to do that. Kirk is more talented physically than Purdy, but is nowhere near as good at processing or playing to the occasion. It's clear what Purdy is ... he's a good to great field general, but lacks skills to win when things break down.Tvols wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:46 am
you could say the same about Hurst , lamar or just about any QB IMO. That was said about Cousin for years how over rated he was only to do it almost every year. I just see a very good QB in the making limitations absolutely but very few QBs does not have some kind of limitations. He just wins most of his games with the aid of his team sure. Agreed we do need to see more but i like what I see ,i would Glady take purdy over DAk, we seen what dak can do and its not any better than for sure.
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