Yup. Always takes me a minute to remember they were in the same classgogobradyarm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:43 pmWasn't Ridley like 24 as a rookie and Moore was 20 or 21?mild wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:19 pm"Hmmmm. Why would Ice make a straw-man case using TD's and receptions as production without including the yardage? He knows TD's aren't sticky year-on-year..."Ice wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:54 am Closer than many think.
Ridley has 28 TD's in 49 Games; 248 Receptions. 5.06 per game
Moore has 21 TD's in 80 Games; 364 Receptions. 4.55 per game
Lawrence is a far more skilled passer and Ridley has always been good in the Red Zone. Obviously, he has been away; At 28 he still should have several years of production left.
Moore is 2.5 years younger but the career production value is on Ridley's side which is an offset.
There is higher risk with Ridley but his upside looks higher given his QB and team are better.
DJM - 364 rec for 5201 yards, 14.3 yards p/r - 80 games
CRid - 248 rec for 3342 yards, 13.5 yards p/r - 49 games
I'll just rewrite the bolded for you: Moore is 2.5 years younger with far greater availability and career production to date, but this COULD be Ridley's year given that T-Law -> Fields as a thrower, and quite easily.
I'm still taking DJM long term in Dynasty, but agree that this is the year to own Ridley in redrafts.
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Re: DJ Moore
I just want to say, close to a third of the way thru the season and DJM is on trajectory to be near this projection lol.gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:37 am A few years ago Lamar was a RB and couldn't throw
Once upon a time Diggs and AJB wouldn't get enough targets to be elite
drum roll....
history repeats itself....
DJM 90-1300-8
BOOK IT
A lot of people said "no way justin fields gets the pass attempts", but quietly Fields is on his way to a 50% increase in pass attempts year over year.
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Re: DJ Moore
Current pace is 1506
Like eberflus calling the D
Like eberflus calling the D
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Re: DJ Moore
Looks like it was a mistake giving up on DJM but I just had to. He was driving me nuts having him on my team. Never felt good starting him and it just didn't seem to get better.
Him having one of the worst passers in the league as his QB didn't seem like much of a solution, but what do I know...
Him having one of the worst passers in the league as his QB didn't seem like much of a solution, but what do I know...
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gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:35 pmAnd your point is?Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:30 pmThe Eagles had 45% more pass attempts than the Bears. 344 to 501. Having a better offense, defense, and QB means more total plays.gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:14 pm
Eagles had almost the same about of rushing attempts in 2022, that didn't stop AJB and Devonta Smith from excelling...
Josh Allen has a nearly 40% rise in pass attempts the year he got Stefon Diggs...
Hurts had a nearly 15% rise in pass attempts the year he got AJB...
Ice wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:03 pmDon’t own DJ Moore anywhere. He is a good but overrated player IMO.lic217 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:44 pmAgreed.halfbaked88 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:07 pm
Fields averaging 150 passing yards per game isn't something to get excited about.
I have serious concerns for leagues I have DJM in.
Don’t think this helps but nothing wrong with Moore fans hoping for steady improvement
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QB: Jalen Hurts, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Barkley, Pacheco, Jacobs, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Zach Evans
WR: AJB, Olave, Aiyuk, London, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Dotson, Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Mayer
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2025: 2x 1st, 2nd
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QB: Jalen Hurts, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Barkley, Pacheco, Jacobs, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Zach Evans
WR: AJB, Olave, Aiyuk, London, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Dotson, Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Mayer
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2025: 2x 1st, 2nd
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Re: DJ Moore
lol now on pace for more like 90/1800/17 and has a GREAT schedule RoS.gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:04 pmI just want to say, close to a third of the way thru the season and DJM is on trajectory to be near this projection lol.gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:37 am A few years ago Lamar was a RB and couldn't throw
Once upon a time Diggs and AJB wouldn't get enough targets to be elite
drum roll....
history repeats itself....
DJM 90-1300-8
BOOK IT
A lot of people said "no way justin fields gets the pass attempts", but quietly Fields is on his way to a 50% increase in pass attempts year over year.
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Chase, Lamb, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, DJM, Dell, M. Williams
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Re: DJ Moore
Just sold DJM and a future late 3rd last night for Hockenson too. That's what I get for listening to all the experts saying sell high
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Re: DJ Moore
Honestly I don't think that's a terrible deal. I'd be surprised if he jumps much past Hock this week even on the notoriously reactionary KTC.DynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:29 pm Just sold DJM and a future late 3rd last night for Hockenson too. That's what I get for listening to all the experts saying sell high
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Re: DJ Moore
Good week to have sold DJM and then play against him
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Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.04, 1.05, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early), 1st (early), 1st (mid)
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Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, MHJ, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Brooks, Ekeler
T: Andrews, Granson
Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.04, 1.05, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early), 1st (early), 1st (mid)
Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, MHJ, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Brooks, Ekeler
T: Andrews, Granson
Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
Re: DJ Moore
Was pondering to start him over G. Wilson
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Re: DJ Moore
DJM was always going to get his. He's actually been a very consistent WR2 around 1200 yards and 4TDs. He's on pace for more than that, which is great after his brutal start to the year.
If we see this Justin Fields the rest of the season there's a good chance DJM has his career year. Do many people really think we saw the real Justin Fields last night though? Call me skeptical, but I'm ready for a couple more 100yard passing games.
If we see this Justin Fields the rest of the season there's a good chance DJM has his career year. Do many people really think we saw the real Justin Fields last night though? Call me skeptical, but I'm ready for a couple more 100yard passing games.
Re: DJ Moore
Still need to see it vs good teams. He's beating up on bad teams and honestly DJM has been a savior for him. As has getting Claypool off the field lol finally Chicago makes a good personnel decision. If only they didnt spend that 1st on himCGW wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:35 am DJM was always going to get his. He's actually been a very consistent WR2 around 1200 yards and 4TDs. He's on pace for more than that, which is great after his brutal start to the year.
If we see this Justin Fields the rest of the season there's a good chance DJM has his career year. Do many people really think we saw the real Justin Fields last night though? Call me skeptical, but I'm ready for a couple more 100yard passing games.
Back to DJM, this is how I thought he would help Fields (not to the extent of 200/3TD, he's due for regression). Using his YAC ability, good route running and hands. He is getting open consistently and making things easy for Fields. Next 3 games Vikings, Raiders, Chargers, so I expect this to continue to a degree. He's a solid WR. Bad WR don't put up 1k yards year in and year out on bad offenses.
I still am going to be nervous starting DJM against stiffer defenses. If Fields gets pressure, he crumbles. If his 1st read is covered up, can he get through his progressions? Have to think defenses will try and scheme to slow down DJM, because the Bears do not have much after him. Mooney and the TE are ok depth pieces, but not sure they can elevate to be a 2nd weapon in this offense.
Re: DJ Moore
Their rest of season schedule is pretty good.
Vikings
Raiders
Chargers
Saints
Panthers
Lions
Vikings
Lions
Browns
Cardinals
Falcons
Packers
Maybe the Saints and Browns I consider tough defenses. The rest, probably not at this point. I could see a scenario of Fields & DJM doing well the rest of the season. But agree with the above post, I’m sure defenses will start to scheme Moore a lot more until they prove they can go to other options.
Vikings
Raiders
Chargers
Saints
Panthers
Lions
Vikings
Lions
Browns
Cardinals
Falcons
Packers
Maybe the Saints and Browns I consider tough defenses. The rest, probably not at this point. I could see a scenario of Fields & DJM doing well the rest of the season. But agree with the above post, I’m sure defenses will start to scheme Moore a lot more until they prove they can go to other options.
Re: DJ Moore
Agreed. I was looking for some tougher schedule stretch, but not too much scares me herefrerichs5 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:49 am Their rest of season schedule is pretty good, not even just the next 3 games.
Vikings
Raiders
Chargers
Saints
Panthers
Lions
Vikings
Lions
Browns
Cardinals
Falcons
Packers
Maybe the Saints and Browns I consider tough defenses. The rest, probably not at this point. I could see a scenario of Fields & DJM doing well the rest of the season. But agree with the above post, I’m sure defenses will start to scheme Moore a lot more until they prove they can go to other options.
Re: DJ Moore
The bolded are the defensive tests. The lions will be especially tough with their pass rush. The Falcons probably won't be a cupcake either. Actually, for the Bears there are no cupcakes. They just got beat by the Broncos last week.frerichs5 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:49 am Their rest of season schedule is pretty good.
Vikings
Raiders
Chargers
Saints
Panthers
Lions
Vikings
Lions
Browns
Cardinals
Falcons
Packers
Maybe the Saints and Browns I consider tough defenses. The rest, probably not at this point. I could see a scenario of Fields & DJM doing well the rest of the season. But agree with the above post, I’m sure defenses will start to scheme Moore a lot more until they prove they can go to other options.
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