Kyler Trade

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Kyler Trade

Postby REPTAR » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:44 am

I have been offered Kyler Murray for Jerome Ford, Nico Collins, and a '25 1st (I don't have a '24 1st). I am QB needy in a 1QB league and am otherwise competitive. I feel like it's too much though. Thoughts?

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:01 am

In a 1QB I'd say too much

I'm always advocate for buying Kyler but that's A) almost always in SuperFlex, and B) assuming a discount. I don't think this is a discount at all in a 1QB league. I'd imagine you can buy someone with less question marks for that price
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby dblj1199 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:28 am

WAY too much in a 1 qb league. Easy pass. What does the rest of your roster look like, are you competing right now??
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10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP


Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker

draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby BucFanJKE » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:31 am

Less than a month ago (aug 29th) I acquired Kyler on team 2.

I paid OBJ and my 24 2nd for Kyler and a 25 3rd.

I don't think the forum liked that one either (but probably because I didn't need him), and it's a much better deal than this.
Team 1-
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 2R, 2W, 1T, 3WRT)
QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, QJ, Bateman, MT, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Freiermuth, Kincaid, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger
1.07, 3.04, 4.07

Team 2-
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Kyler, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson, 4nette
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Aiyuk, London, JSN, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Shaheed
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich, Logan Thomas
2024: 2 1st (one top 3), 4th

Team 3- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Dak, Young
RB: Gibbs, Hall, J. Cook, Warren, Bigsby, K. Mitchell, Dobbins, D. Cook,
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Olave, Higgins, London, JSN, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Z. Jones, Hyatt
TE: Kittle, Kincaid, Woods, Likely
2024: 2 1st (one top 2), 3rd, 4th

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby REPTAR » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:36 am

1 QB, 3WR, 2RB, TE, Flex

QB RWilson, Derek Carr
WR Higgins, Mike Williams, Lockett, Jeudy, Nico, Gallup, Reed, Calvin Austin
RB Breece, Javonte, Sanders, Herbert, Ford, Hunt, Achane
TE Engram, Njoku, Musgrave

Currently 2-0 and think I have a shot. QB seems to be my biggest hole

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:40 am

Too much based on the format. Collins looks solid out of the gate and even though the 1st is multiple years out, it tips the scale heavily to the side you are giving in a 1 QB.

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby BucFanJKE » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:42 am

REPTAR wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:36 am 1 QB, 3WR, 2RB, TE, Flex

QB RWilson, Derek Carr
WR Higgins, Mike Williams, Lockett, Jeudy, Nico, Gallup, Reed, Calvin Austin
RB Breece, Javonte, Sanders, Herbert, Ford, Hunt, Achane
TE Engram, Njoku, Musgrave

Currently 2-0 and think I have a shot. QB seems to be my biggest hole
There is a world were Kyler doesn't play this year, and am imagining if he does it's at the end of the season to show he is healthy for a couple games to garner more trade interest from teams this offseason. I wouldn't look at Kyler as a win now piece, I would look at him as an IR stash and asset for next year.
Team 1-
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 2R, 2W, 1T, 3WRT)
QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, QJ, Bateman, MT, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Freiermuth, Kincaid, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger
1.07, 3.04, 4.07

Team 2-
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Kyler, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson, 4nette
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Aiyuk, London, JSN, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Shaheed
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich, Logan Thomas
2024: 2 1st (one top 3), 4th

Team 3- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Dak, Young
RB: Gibbs, Hall, J. Cook, Warren, Bigsby, K. Mitchell, Dobbins, D. Cook,
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Olave, Higgins, London, JSN, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Z. Jones, Hyatt
TE: Kittle, Kincaid, Woods, Likely
2024: 2 1st (one top 2), 3rd, 4th

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby REPTAR » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:53 am

Thanks everyone!

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:55 am

I don't think you're super needy in a 1QB either. I can certainly understand wanting an upgrade. But I'd be trying to package Russ or Carr (+)

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby dblj1199 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:10 am

I think I'm passing with your roster. Definitely not giving up a 1st here. Your team looks solid, I'm hold with what you have for now, see if Payton can work some magic in Denver.
2015, 2017, 2022 Champ.
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP


Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker

draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:53 am

I like the pieces way better than Kyler. I’m also out on Kyler so I’d jump at a single 1st to rid him like it’s nobody’s biz

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby REPTAR » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:54 am

UPDATED

Does anyone think this deal is closer?

Send: late '24 2nd (have two), '25 1st, Jerome Ford
Receive: Kyler, '25 2nd

Would theoretically solve QB long term for me. Nobody has any interest in a Carr/Wilson + swap, and getting elite QBs is difficult in this league.

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby robinoso » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:59 am

I traded a 2 and a 4 for Kyler in a 1QB and feel I could have spent the 2 more wisely 😂
10 Team .5 PPR 1QB
QB,RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, W/R/T, W/R/T

QB: Herbert, Rodgers, Kyler, Watson, Howell
RB: Bijan, Achane, Barkley, Allgeier, Breida, Gainwell, Strong, Tucker
WR: AJB, Adams, Wilson, Hill, Higgins, Reed, JSN,, T. Marshall, Boutte, Arob, Ross
TE: Pitts, Kincaid, Waller, Bellinger

No 24 or 25 picks other than 4th and 5th each year.

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Re: Kyler Trade

Postby Prison_Mike » Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:53 am

REPTAR wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:54 am UPDATED

Does anyone think this deal is closer?

Send: late '24 2nd (have two), '25 1st, Jerome Ford
Receive: Kyler, '25 2nd

Would theoretically solve QB long term for me. Nobody has any interest in a Carr/Wilson + swap, and getting elite QBs is difficult in this league.
I've been in 1QB leagues like this, I completely understand the frustration.

But I still think your 1st is better served elsewhere


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