Puka Nacua

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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Sep 12, 2023 5:19 am

gpaok wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:36 pm It was an impressive first game but let’s play a name game. Would you take Puka over?

Marvin Mims
Rachaad White
Isiah Pacheco
Mike Williams
Elijah Moore
Tank Bigsby

I have carefully placed a few of these names since it’s a mixture of WR rookies and veterans and RBs. Seems like I would take him over all of them - maybe not Bigsby.
Let's not do this lol

In the case of comparing him to other rookies, draft capital still matters. So, if Nacua is doing this for several games...then sure, he's higher than all the rookies you named. But today? I'm not taking him over Bigsby or Mims. In the case of anyone with proven production, it's the same thing.

Let's also remember that Tutu Atwell went for 119 yards in this game. There's upside here, but I don't think we should start launching him.

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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby CGW » Tue Sep 12, 2023 5:47 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 5:19 am
gpaok wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:36 pm It was an impressive first game but let’s play a name game. Would you take Puka over?

Marvin Mims
Rachaad White
Isiah Pacheco
Mike Williams
Elijah Moore
Tank Bigsby

I have carefully placed a few of these names since it’s a mixture of WR rookies and veterans and RBs. Seems like I would take him over all of them - maybe not Bigsby.
Let's not do this lol

In the case of comparing him to other rookies, draft capital still matters. So, if Nacua is doing this for several games...then sure, he's higher than all the rookies you named. But today? I'm not taking him over Bigsby or Mims. In the case of anyone with proven production, it's the same thing.

Let's also remember that Tutu Atwell went for 119 yards in this game. There's upside here, but I don't think we should start launching him.
It's Travis Fulgham all over. Not saying Puka isn't good. I own him in almost every league because I assumed there was opportunity (strong believer that van Jefferson stinks). But it's one week. Let's not start putting his value at a 1st round pick yet. No1 is offering that barring playing in a league with some rubes. He's an exciting hold and a good waiver claim. That's all.

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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby gpaok » Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:28 am

Ruggenater wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:12 am
ericanadian wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:37 pm I don’t think he’s a functional outside receiver and I don’t think Kupp is going to stop playing the slot on three wide sets. I wouldn’t call him a flash in the pan. You had to hold Edelman a long time waiting for them to move Welker, but it sure was nice when it finally happened. I think Nacua can be a solid or better slot guy, he just needs opportunity.
According to JJ Zachariason, Puka ran 74% of his routes in a perimeter role. I don’t know the production split, but that’s an encouraging sign for continued viability post Kupp’s return.
That was also my thought - when Kupp comes back it is highly likely he will stay relevant! Maybe not 15 targets but should be heavily involved!
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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:06 pm

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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby mild » Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:23 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:06 pm 1.01
You used to be one of my favourite DLF posters.

Sad times.
gpaok wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:28 am
Ruggenater wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:12 am According to JJ Zachariason, Puka ran 74% of his routes in a perimeter role. I don’t know the production split, but that’s an encouraging sign for continued viability post Kupp’s return.
That was also my thought - when Kupp comes back it is highly likely he will stay relevant! Maybe not 15 targets but should be heavily involved!
I was extremely impressed by Nacua. The tape is awesome.

I think he's relevant the whole rest of the way for as long as Stafford and he can stay healthy.

That was his ding coming out. A lot of draftniks (ie. Brugler) said he was a Day 2 guy if he didn't have those concerns.

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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby ericanadian » Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:29 pm

gpaok wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:28 am
Ruggenater wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:12 am
ericanadian wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:37 pm I don’t think he’s a functional outside receiver and I don’t think Kupp is going to stop playing the slot on three wide sets. I wouldn’t call him a flash in the pan. You had to hold Edelman a long time waiting for them to move Welker, but it sure was nice when it finally happened. I think Nacua can be a solid or better slot guy, he just needs opportunity.
According to JJ Zachariason, Puka ran 74% of his routes in a perimeter role. I don’t know the production split, but that’s an encouraging sign for continued viability post Kupp’s return.
That was also my thought - when Kupp comes back it is highly likely he will stay relevant! Maybe not 15 targets but should be heavily involved!
Ya, looking at the highlights he was all over the place. All of the receivers were. They were using a lot of bunches and crossing routes to open up coverage. Bad news would be that he was behind Jefferson and Atwell for snaps. He probably needs to pass one of them to continue contributing. Maybe he will. It’s not like Jefferson lit it up and he clearly has Stafford’s trust.

Edit: Looking again, Atwell had him beat by only one snap, so who knows?
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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby Plank » Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:39 pm

Nacua is going to hurt himself .. he was playing like it was the last game of the season ..
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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:00 am

Highest target shares by a rookie in their first game:

1. Eddie Royal (2008, 56%) - ended with 980 yards
2. Zay Flowers (2023, 48%)
3. Antonio Byrant (2002, 47%) - ended with 733 yards
4. Reggie Bush (2006, 44%) - ended with 742 yards
5. Puka Nacua (2023, 41%)
6. Keke Coutee (2018, 38%) - ended with 287 yards
7. Julian Edelman (2009, 34%) - ended with 359 yards
8. Bijan Robinson (2023, 33%)

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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby CGW » Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:07 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:00 am Highest target shares by a rookie in their first game:

1. Eddie Royal (2008, 56%) - ended with 980 yards
2. Zay Flowers (2023, 48%)
3. Antonio Byrant (2002, 47%) - ended with 733 yards
4. Reggie Bush (2006, 44%) - ended with 742 yards
5. Puka Nacua (2023, 41%)
6. Keke Coutee (2018, 38%) - ended with 287 yards
7. Julian Edelman (2009, 34%) - ended with 359 yards
8. Bijan Robinson (2023, 33%)
Biggest takeaway here is Bijan. Not sure what else to make of this grouping.

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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby gpaok » Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:25 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:00 am Highest target shares by a rookie in their first game:

1. Eddie Royal (2008, 56%) - ended with 980 yards
2. Zay Flowers (2023, 48%)
3. Antonio Byrant (2002, 47%) - ended with 733 yards
4. Reggie Bush (2006, 44%) - ended with 742 yards
5. Puka Nacua (2023, 41%)
6. Keke Coutee (2018, 38%) - ended with 287 yards
7. Julian Edelman (2009, 34%) - ended with 359 yards
8. Bijan Robinson (2023, 33%)
Love this post!!
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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby mild » Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:49 pm

CGW wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:07 am
Cameron Giles wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:00 am Highest target shares by a rookie in their first game:

1. Eddie Royal (2008, 56%) - ended with 980 yards
2. Zay Flowers (2023, 48%)
3. Antonio Byrant (2002, 47%) - ended with 733 yards
4. Reggie Bush (2006, 44%) - ended with 742 yards
5. Puka Nacua (2023, 41%)
6. Keke Coutee (2018, 38%) - ended with 287 yards
7. Julian Edelman (2009, 34%) - ended with 359 yards
8. Bijan Robinson (2023, 33%)
Biggest takeaway here is Bijan. Not sure what else to make of this grouping.
The funniest thing about that Bijan number is that he had 6 targets.

Ridder only threw 18 times.

It's far more impressive for Nacua and Zay imo. Being targeted 15 times for Nacua and bringing in 10 of them bodes extremely well for the weeks coming up.

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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby Two Cents » Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:22 pm

Trade Mike Evans and a 2nd for Nacua? :lol:
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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby CGW » Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:29 pm

Two Cents wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:22 pm Trade Mike Evans and a 2nd for Nacua? :lol:
In case you weren't around for it, some other good laughs in the Travis Fulgham thread from years passed.

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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby Orenthal Shames » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:07 pm

CGW wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:29 pm
Two Cents wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:22 pm Trade Mike Evans and a 2nd for Nacua? :lol:
In case you weren't around for it, some other good laughs in the Travis Fulgham thread from years passed.
Fulgham hype was real, but I never had him rostered, so didn't get the full experience. It was Preston Williams for me. I got BLASTED on here by some for dealing him away during his rookie year for a 2nd. It's rare these super cheap/free adds sustain value. I'd cash for any decent 24 2nd.
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Re: Puka Nacua

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:18 pm

Kevin White for me, OOF.
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