RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

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RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby gpaok » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:32 am

Who are players you are stashing with the hope that next year they get a chance to lead a backfield or will replace current starters?

I feel like the Chicago Bears backfield with K. Herbert and R. Johnson by mid season.

Indianapolis could have a similar situation next year where Hull could be the starter.

What do others think?
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Re: RB Stashes or starters by mid season

Postby gpaok » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:33 am

New Orleans also feels like it will have a helm change by next year.
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Re: RB Stashes or starters by mid season

Postby j4pac » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:36 am

gpaok wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:33 am New Orleans also feels like it will have a helm change by next year.
I think the Saints win the division this season. I’d also not be surprised if Kamara is extended
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Re: RB Stashes or starters by mid season

Postby gpaok » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:41 am

j4pac wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:36 am
gpaok wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:33 am New Orleans also feels like it will have a helm change by next year.
I think the Saints win the division this season. I’d also not be surprised if Kamara is extended
That’s an interesting take do you worry with Kamara being 28 they would just move on like the cowboys did?
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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby sehon4 » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:00 am

This below:

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2023/07 ... lvin-cook/

Back to Kamara. Right now, he is set to carry a salary cap hit north of $18.8 million into 2024 — with more than $7 million of it coming from his prorated signing bonus. He’ll have another $1 million roster bonus trigger on March 22, per Over The Cap, but the bulk of his payout comes from a $10.2 million base salary.

Moving Kamara before June 1, 2024 (either in a trade or release) saves the Saints just $1.6 million. Designating him a post-June 1 cut would bring $11.8 million in savings, but not until after that date. Waiting to trade him would do the same. But for the Saints to do that they’d still need to carry his $18.8 million cap hit on the books through free agency, the draft, and early-summer team practices.

So odds are that Kamara will agree to another restructure in 2024. That saves the team $8.1 million against the cap and guarantees him his roster spot. The big decision on his future with the team is still set for 2025, when his cap hit swells to a staggering $29 million (this restructure we’re proposing would put him over $30 million). At that point the Saints would need to choose whether to sign him to a new extension and create cap relief or cut bait altogether and save as much as $25 million in unguaranteed cash.

But none of this matters if Kamara doesn’t return to form. If he continues to decline they’ll move on from him without a second thought. Kamara peaked with 112.5 scrimmage yards per game in 2020 but that number has fallen in each of the subsequent years, to 102.8 in 2021 and just 92.5 in 2022. An upgrade at quarterback should help him become more of a threat on passing downs, and improved blocking will help him as a rusher, but at the end of the day Kamara needs to look more like his old self. The Saints drafted Kendre Miller this year as a long-term option in case Kamara isn’t on the team in a year or two. Hopefully it won’t come to that, but you never know. All that’s certain is that there are slim pickings on the open market for even star running backs. If all goes well, maybe Kamara can work something out with the Saints so he never has to experience it for himself.
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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby sehon4 » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:02 am

Better QBing will see AK41 returning to form. The past 2 years had scrubs playing QB. He should start to see more targets coming out of the back field and teams won't be able to stack 8 in the box against him.
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Re: RB Stashes or starters by mid season

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:08 am

j4pac wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:36 am
gpaok wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:33 am New Orleans also feels like it will have a helm change by next year.
I think the Saints win the division this season. I’d also not be surprised if Kamara is extended
Why on earth would they do that? Why would they extend him years from now when he'd be in his 30's when he's already under contract for years? That would be one of the worst ideas possible.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans ... ara-21809/

Agreed on them winning the division, so I think their coach stays if that happens.
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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby murphysxm » Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:26 am

I have been aggressively targeting Jerome Ford and Malik Davis, may not want to listen to me
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Sep 02, 2023 12:00 pm

gpaok wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:32 am Who are players you are stashing with the hope that next year they get a chance to lead a backfield or will replace current starters?

I feel like the Chicago Bears backfield with K. Herbert and R. Johnson by mid season.

Indianapolis could have a similar situation next year where Hull could be the starter.

What do others think?
I think Roschon helps for pass pro, but Herbert is a much more explosive player, and if they want to maximize the potential of that offense, I think Herbert is clearly the back to use. Johnson would have to pass 2 players by mid season, that's unlikely unless there's an injury.

Or are you trying to say Johnson passes Foreman, and gets a role alongside Herbert?
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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby gpaok » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:42 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 12:00 pm
gpaok wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:32 am Who are players you are stashing with the hope that next year they get a chance to lead a backfield or will replace current starters?

I feel like the Chicago Bears backfield with K. Herbert and R. Johnson by mid season.

Indianapolis could have a similar situation next year where Hull could be the starter.

What do others think?
I think Roschon helps for pass pro, but Herbert is a much more explosive player, and if they want to maximize the potential of that offense, I think Herbert is clearly the back to use. Johnson would have to pass 2 players by mid season, that's unlikely unless there's an injury.

Or are you trying to say Johnson passes Foreman, and gets a role alongside Herbert?
I was thinking long term they drafted Johnson so they would want him to succeed more.

I agree Herbert seems explosive, his ypc seem always high against tough defenses.

I’m just trying to see who folks are stashing for next year.
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RB: Nick Chubb, J.K. Dobbins, Travis Etienne, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rachaad White, Khalil Herbert, Tank Bigsby, Jaylen Warren, Jerome Ford, Kyren Williams, Tank Bigsby
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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby gpaok » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:42 pm

murphysxm wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:26 am I have been aggressively targeting Jerome Ford and Malik Davis, may not want to listen to me
As a Chubb owner I think I will target him with my 3.10 pick.
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RB: Nick Chubb, J.K. Dobbins, Travis Etienne, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rachaad White, Khalil Herbert, Tank Bigsby, Jaylen Warren, Jerome Ford, Kyren Williams, Tank Bigsby
WR: Amari Cooper, CeeDee Lamb, Ja’Marr Chase, Calvin Ridley, Tank Dell
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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj » Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:17 pm

Tucker officially named 2nd rb behind White, for those following

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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:25 pm

qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:17 pm Tucker officially named 2nd rb behind White, for those following
Where? Are we sure this isn't just piggy backing off that one tweet that wasn't official, like how so many other rumours and misinformation start? All I see is this in terms of anything new.

https://twitter.com/FantasySource_/stat ... 5112558952

https://www.buccaneers.com/team/depth-chart
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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:29 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:25 pm
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:17 pm Tucker officially named 2nd rb behind White, for those following
Where? Are we sure this isn't just piggy backing off that one tweet?

https://www.buccaneers.com/team/depth-chart

Buccaneers | RB Tucker Listed as No.2 Sun Sep 3, 03:37 PM

Tampa Bay Buccaneers rookie RB Sean Tucker will open the season as no.2 on the depth chart behind Rachaad White.
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Just saw this on the newsfeed over at Footballguys.
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Re: RB Stashes for next year or starters by mid season

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:33 pm

Shoreline Steamers wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:29 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:25 pm
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:17 pm Tucker officially named 2nd rb behind White, for those following
Where? Are we sure this isn't just piggy backing off that one tweet?

https://www.buccaneers.com/team/depth-chart

Buccaneers | RB Tucker Listed as No.2 Sun Sep 3, 03:37 PM

Tampa Bay Buccaneers rookie RB Sean Tucker will open the season as no.2 on the depth chart behind Rachaad White.
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Just saw this on the newsfeed over at Footballguys.
OK, cool. Good for him. I guess the Bucs haven't updated their depth chart. Any links I can see?
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