Kelce for a WR
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Kelce for a WR
Which WRs would you trade Kelce away for? Looking for the list of ones that are equal to or greater than kelce in value. Straight up not adding anything to kelce.
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PPR--QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, Superflex, Flex x2
QBs: Lawrence, Stafford, Bunch of backups
RBs: Ekeler, Kamara, Achane, Dillon, Kelley, Moss, Javonte Williams,Jamaal Williams
WRs: Adams, Hopkins, Waddle, Kirk, JSN, Boyd, OBJ, Hyatt, Osborn
TEs: Kelce, Hockenson, Taysom,
and then a few minor players and rookie stashed on taxi
PPR--QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, Superflex, Flex x2
QBs: Lawrence, Stafford, Bunch of backups
RBs: Ekeler, Kamara, Achane, Dillon, Kelley, Moss, Javonte Williams,Jamaal Williams
WRs: Adams, Hopkins, Waddle, Kirk, JSN, Boyd, OBJ, Hyatt, Osborn
TEs: Kelce, Hockenson, Taysom,
and then a few minor players and rookie stashed on taxi
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Re: Kelce for a WR
Tough call because Kelce is the biggest difference maker in fantasy but age is a concern value wise. I would think anyone outside of Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, and Waddle may be possible. Wilson may be a stretch with his massive hype too.
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Olave, Devonta, Hill, London
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
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2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Re: Kelce for a WR
A big part of determining who you can get is deciding exactly what are you looking for.nicktahoes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:06 pmWhich WRs would you trade Kelce away for? Looking for the list of ones that are equal to or greater than kelce in value. Straight up not adding anything to kelce.
I don't think you're getting any dynasty T10WRs aged 26 or younger. I mean, anything is possible, but it would take a specific situation and owner to lead to a straight up Kelce swap for Amon, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, Wilson, and likely Devonta. Maybe Higgins, but he has a lot of hype attached to him.
If you're looking for immediate production to replace Kelce's stats but at the WR position because you're looking to contend at a high level, that means you would be okay with receiving an older player who has two or three more years on top. That says Tyreek, Diggs. Probably also Kupp but I'm not sure you want to go that old.
If you're looking for younger targets, I think you could get guys like DKM, London, CWatson, Jeudy, Aiyuk.
But your first goal will be to identify which teams in your league are in a win-now mode AND have the type of WR you're interested in. Can you give us an idea of players on teams like that in your league?
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QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Kelce for a WR
My prime target would be D. Smith. Seems like the best WR prospect out there that is also being undervalued by most of the community. Olave and Wilson are impossible to trade for (or nearly so). London isn't on the same level IMO. I love London but he doesn't have top-12 potential in '23 (Smith does).
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Re: Kelce for a WR
You should be able to pull Waddle too
Re: Kelce for a WR
Really tough to say. You will be limited to trading with only the top 3-4 teams probably. The ones that know they have a real shot at competing and have spare WR depth. Maybe London or Higgins, but really doubt you could jump into the next tier up with Waddle/Smith/Olave/ARSB. Guess you don't know until you try though.
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While I don't disagree in some ways w/ this statement, I think Waddle is very highly regarded by a lot of managers. I don't quite get why. But he seems to carry value beyond guys like Smith and Olave. This is why I don't target him anywhere. I like him fine. Just seems overpriced.
Re: Kelce for a WR
I think that's true of all three. They're all overvalued to some degree -- and I want all three on my teams. To acquire them takes either an overpay, or a magical perfect fit type trade. Like a RB/WR swap with a RB-needy contender. Higgins is hanging on to being a member of this group.tstafford wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 6:27 amWhile I don't disagree in some ways w/ this statement, I think Waddle is very highly regarded by a lot of managers. I don't quite get why. But he seems to carry value beyond guys like Smith and Olave. This is why I don't target him anywhere. I like him fine. Just seems overpriced.
I think cautious managers tend to wait "one more year of proof" before overpaying for of these guys. And eager early adopters tend to say "I better get him now at this high price, before it goes even higher after he proves himself more."
I think there's better value to be had with guys like London, Metcalf, Watson, Kirk and a few others. Those guys will come close to the Waddle/Olave/Devonta trio every year, and be better some years. But they'll cost less today.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: Kelce for a WR
That could be. I for sure agree on London. What I've seen lately is that Wilson/Waddle are a tier then Olave and then Smith. I'm not seeing Smith carry the same value as the others which is why I bought him in my main league. Maybe they are all overpriced - although I was happy with the deal I had to pay. . .Anteaters wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 6:38 amI think that's true of all three. They're all overvalued to some degree -- and I want all three on my teams. To acquire them takes either an overpay, or a magical perfect fit type trade. Like a RB/WR swap with a RB-needy contender. Higgins is hanging on to being a member of this group.tstafford wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 6:27 amWhile I don't disagree in some ways w/ this statement, I think Waddle is very highly regarded by a lot of managers. I don't quite get why. But he seems to carry value beyond guys like Smith and Olave. This is why I don't target him anywhere. I like him fine. Just seems overpriced.
I think cautious managers tend to wait "one more year of proof" before overpaying for of these guys. And eager early adopters tend to say "I better get him now at this high price, before it goes even higher after he proves himself more."
I think there's better value to be had with guys like London, Metcalf, Watson, Kirk and a few others. Those guys will come close to the Waddle/Olave/Devonta trio every year, and be better some years. But they'll cost less today.
Re: Kelce for a WR
Well his value is only with a contending team with his age. No, well 99.999% of teams in a rebuild are going to move a top young wr for Kelce unless they are delusional. So you would need to look at teams that are going to be competing and are deep at wr and need a top te, then you can narrow your list down of possible wr's to target.
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Re: Kelce for a WR
Agree w thiststafford wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 6:27 amWhile I don't disagree in some ways w/ this statement, I think Waddle is very highly regarded by a lot of managers. I don't quite get why. But he seems to carry value beyond guys like Smith and Olave. This is why I don't target him anywhere. I like him fine. Just seems overpriced.
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