Kyler for Stroud?
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Kyler for Stroud?
Got an offer to trade my Kyler for Stroud
It’s 12 team sf te premium and Kyler and Purdy are my only qbs.
Rest of the team is a mix of young vets and vets.
Some names are:
Kittle, j jacobs, swift, etn, waddle, aiiyuk, dk, otton, likely, Pittman,
Thoughts? Team is not in signature
It’s 12 team sf te premium and Kyler and Purdy are my only qbs.
Rest of the team is a mix of young vets and vets.
Some names are:
Kittle, j jacobs, swift, etn, waddle, aiiyuk, dk, otton, likely, Pittman,
Thoughts? Team is not in signature
Team 1 TE PREM SF
QB : Kyler, K.Pickett, M.Jones, B.Mayfield, Jordan Love, D.Lock
RB : K WalkerIII, E.Mitchell, J.Robinson, K.Ingram
WR: J.Waddle, DiontaeJohnson, Marquise Brown, G.Pickens, Callaway, John Metchie, Romeo Doubs, DSlayton, Russel Gage, Jalen Guyton, Van Jefferson
TE: Freiermuth, D.Bellinger, Logan Thomas, Dan Arnold, Donald Parham, Hunter Long
2023 : 2.02,4.02
2024 - onwards : all picks
Team 2 TE PREM SF
QB: D.Jones, Tua,Carr, Boyle
RB: McCaffery, Kamara, Jacobs, Penny, Justice Hill
WR: Diggs,AJ Brown, Godwin, DavantaAdams ,Zay Jones, Hodgins, +some depth guys
TE: Goedet, Fant, Bellinger, Higbee
2023: No Picks
2024 - No Picks
2025 3rd, 4th
Team 3 TE PREM SF
QB: Herbert, RWilson, Stafford
RB: Swift, Ekeler, Conner,Aaron Jones + depth guys
WR: Godwin, Keenan Allen, Addison, Rondale Moore, Marquise Callaway, Duvernay
TE: Kelce, Higbee, Tonyan, Dissly, Jake Ferguson, Trey McBride
2024-onwards: all picks
QB : Kyler, K.Pickett, M.Jones, B.Mayfield, Jordan Love, D.Lock
RB : K WalkerIII, E.Mitchell, J.Robinson, K.Ingram
WR: J.Waddle, DiontaeJohnson, Marquise Brown, G.Pickens, Callaway, John Metchie, Romeo Doubs, DSlayton, Russel Gage, Jalen Guyton, Van Jefferson
TE: Freiermuth, D.Bellinger, Logan Thomas, Dan Arnold, Donald Parham, Hunter Long
2023 : 2.02,4.02
2024 - onwards : all picks
Team 2 TE PREM SF
QB: D.Jones, Tua,Carr, Boyle
RB: McCaffery, Kamara, Jacobs, Penny, Justice Hill
WR: Diggs,AJ Brown, Godwin, DavantaAdams ,Zay Jones, Hodgins, +some depth guys
TE: Goedet, Fant, Bellinger, Higbee
2023: No Picks
2024 - No Picks
2025 3rd, 4th
Team 3 TE PREM SF
QB: Herbert, RWilson, Stafford
RB: Swift, Ekeler, Conner,Aaron Jones + depth guys
WR: Godwin, Keenan Allen, Addison, Rondale Moore, Marquise Callaway, Duvernay
TE: Kelce, Higbee, Tonyan, Dissly, Jake Ferguson, Trey McBride
2024-onwards: all picks
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Re: Kyler for Stroud?
Kyler has legit questions.
Stroud has legit questions.
Kyler has produced in the NFL.
Stroud hasn't.
This smacks as loving the unknown to me. I'll take Kyler very, very easily.
Stroud has legit questions.
Kyler has produced in the NFL.
Stroud hasn't.
This smacks as loving the unknown to me. I'll take Kyler very, very easily.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)
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Re: Kyler for Stroud?
Thank you, I agree with you but some of these trade calcs had me questioning myself
Team 1 TE PREM SF
QB : Kyler, K.Pickett, M.Jones, B.Mayfield, Jordan Love, D.Lock
RB : K WalkerIII, E.Mitchell, J.Robinson, K.Ingram
WR: J.Waddle, DiontaeJohnson, Marquise Brown, G.Pickens, Callaway, John Metchie, Romeo Doubs, DSlayton, Russel Gage, Jalen Guyton, Van Jefferson
TE: Freiermuth, D.Bellinger, Logan Thomas, Dan Arnold, Donald Parham, Hunter Long
2023 : 2.02,4.02
2024 - onwards : all picks
Team 2 TE PREM SF
QB: D.Jones, Tua,Carr, Boyle
RB: McCaffery, Kamara, Jacobs, Penny, Justice Hill
WR: Diggs,AJ Brown, Godwin, DavantaAdams ,Zay Jones, Hodgins, +some depth guys
TE: Goedet, Fant, Bellinger, Higbee
2023: No Picks
2024 - No Picks
2025 3rd, 4th
Team 3 TE PREM SF
QB: Herbert, RWilson, Stafford
RB: Swift, Ekeler, Conner,Aaron Jones + depth guys
WR: Godwin, Keenan Allen, Addison, Rondale Moore, Marquise Callaway, Duvernay
TE: Kelce, Higbee, Tonyan, Dissly, Jake Ferguson, Trey McBride
2024-onwards: all picks
QB : Kyler, K.Pickett, M.Jones, B.Mayfield, Jordan Love, D.Lock
RB : K WalkerIII, E.Mitchell, J.Robinson, K.Ingram
WR: J.Waddle, DiontaeJohnson, Marquise Brown, G.Pickens, Callaway, John Metchie, Romeo Doubs, DSlayton, Russel Gage, Jalen Guyton, Van Jefferson
TE: Freiermuth, D.Bellinger, Logan Thomas, Dan Arnold, Donald Parham, Hunter Long
2023 : 2.02,4.02
2024 - onwards : all picks
Team 2 TE PREM SF
QB: D.Jones, Tua,Carr, Boyle
RB: McCaffery, Kamara, Jacobs, Penny, Justice Hill
WR: Diggs,AJ Brown, Godwin, DavantaAdams ,Zay Jones, Hodgins, +some depth guys
TE: Goedet, Fant, Bellinger, Higbee
2023: No Picks
2024 - No Picks
2025 3rd, 4th
Team 3 TE PREM SF
QB: Herbert, RWilson, Stafford
RB: Swift, Ekeler, Conner,Aaron Jones + depth guys
WR: Godwin, Keenan Allen, Addison, Rondale Moore, Marquise Callaway, Duvernay
TE: Kelce, Higbee, Tonyan, Dissly, Jake Ferguson, Trey McBride
2024-onwards: all picks
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Re: Kyler for Stroud?
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Give my Kyler, know a lot of people are down on him... but we know he's a legit NFL QB.
Give my Kyler, know a lot of people are down on him... but we know he's a legit NFL QB.
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Re: Kyler for Stroud?
Kyler by a good bit. I’d need a couple stroud prospects.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: Kyler for Stroud?
Took Kyler 15 picks before I took Stroud in my recent start-up. Like them both, Kyler is more valuable IMO.
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Re: Kyler for Stroud?
Piling on. I would hold the known asset in Murray. Stroud is capped with his lack of rushing upside.
Re: Kyler for Stroud?
Murray. Would need a worthwhile asset ontop of Stroud to make it even. Murray has shown he can be a top end producer even for pretty questionable teams/offenses. Don't love his attitude, but he's either playing a few more high end years with the cards or somewhere else under his contract.
Re: Kyler for Stroud?
Kyler. When healthy he can easily put up QB1 weeks with rushing floor alone.
CJ is going to need Time. I'd need CJ plus
CJ is going to need Time. I'd need CJ plus
QB: Herbert Burrow, Mac Jones
Wr: Lamb, G Wilson, Davante Adams, Amon Ra, Jayden Reed, Tank Dell, Wandale, Boutte
RB: Breece, Saquon, CMC, Rhanondre, Z Knight, C Hubbard, Lat Murray, Izzy A.
TE: Njoku, Bellinger, Kincaid, J Johnson, La Porta
DEFENDING champ
Team 2: Struggle Build
Qb: TUA, Stroud, Mac, Ridder, Howell, OConnell, Trey Lance
RB: Breece, James Cook, Dillon, Jahmyr Gibbs, I Spiller, Pierre Strong,.Kendre Miller, Chase Brown,
Wr: Pittman,.G Wilson, Olave, Q Johnston, T Thornton, J Ross, J Downs, R Rice, K Phillips, Wandale
TE: Pitts, Otton, Schoonmaker, Likely
Wr: Lamb, G Wilson, Davante Adams, Amon Ra, Jayden Reed, Tank Dell, Wandale, Boutte
RB: Breece, Saquon, CMC, Rhanondre, Z Knight, C Hubbard, Lat Murray, Izzy A.
TE: Njoku, Bellinger, Kincaid, J Johnson, La Porta
DEFENDING champ
Team 2: Struggle Build
Qb: TUA, Stroud, Mac, Ridder, Howell, OConnell, Trey Lance
RB: Breece, James Cook, Dillon, Jahmyr Gibbs, I Spiller, Pierre Strong,.Kendre Miller, Chase Brown,
Wr: Pittman,.G Wilson, Olave, Q Johnston, T Thornton, J Ross, J Downs, R Rice, K Phillips, Wandale
TE: Pitts, Otton, Schoonmaker, Likely
Re: Kyler for Stroud?
I’m pretty much out on Kyler at this point so this is probably closer to me than it appears it is to others. If you could get like a 2nd added on to Stroud, I’m doing that all day.
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Re: Kyler for Stroud?
Kyler by a mile, and I am not a fan of him.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
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Re: Kyler for Stroud?
When you say you are out on him, are you saying he will never play again? Or you only believe play like 2-3 seasons? When he plays he is a qb1 so it seems to me
1. You have to believe he will only play 2-3 more years and Stroud will be a qb1 for 8-10 years to mitigate the risk he busts.
2. He never plays again so pretty much any production from Stroud is a win for you
What is your perspective here? I’m probably missing some options here?
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: Kyler for Stroud?
I can’t speak for JoeJoe, but as someone else who is pretty much out on Kyler…my thoughts…SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:52 amWhen you say you are out on him, are you saying he will never play again? Or you only believe play like 2-3 seasons? When he plays he is a qb1 so it seems to me
1. You have to believe he will only play 2-3 more years and Stroud will be a qb1 for 8-10 years to mitigate the risk he busts.
2. He never plays again so pretty much any production from Stroud is a win for you
What is your perspective here? I’m probably missing some options here?
Yes, he’s been QB1 in the past. But that was with Kingsbury and an air raid type offense. What will he be like in a different system? I don’t know.
He also always falls off later in the year. He gets dinged up, doesn’t rush as much, etc. What happens as he ages here more and rushing naturally dries up? (At least it does for most QBs)
And then there’s questions on his work ethic/motivation. Right or wrong. I don’t put a ton of weight here personally, but just another thing to move me off him combined with everything else.
Re: Kyler for Stroud?
I think he’s going to continue to run less and less. The injuries are starting to pile up for him, and imo he’s not a good enough passer to sustain those fantasy finishes if you’re not mixing in his running consistently.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:52 amWhen you say you are out on him, are you saying he will never play again? Or you only believe play like 2-3 seasons? When he plays he is a qb1 so it seems to me
1. You have to believe he will only play 2-3 more years and Stroud will be a qb1 for 8-10 years to mitigate the risk he busts.
2. He never plays again so pretty much any production from Stroud is a win for you
What is your perspective here? I’m probably missing some options here?
Additionally, he just seems like a bit of a knucklehead to me. He doesn’t strike me as a guy that a teams going to really rally behind. I’m not sure he’s a long-term, franchise starter in the league.
Re: Kyler for Stroud?
I didn’t read your post before I responded but this is basically spot-on.frerichs5 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:06 amI can’t speak for JoeJoe, but as someone else who is pretty much out on Kyler…my thoughts…SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:52 amWhen you say you are out on him, are you saying he will never play again? Or you only believe play like 2-3 seasons? When he plays he is a qb1 so it seems to me
1. You have to believe he will only play 2-3 more years and Stroud will be a qb1 for 8-10 years to mitigate the risk he busts.
2. He never plays again so pretty much any production from Stroud is a win for you
What is your perspective here? I’m probably missing some options here?
Yes, he’s been QB1 in the past. But that was with Kingsbury and an air raid type offense. What will he be like in a different system? I don’t know.
He also always falls off later in the year. He gets dinged up, doesn’t rush as much, etc. What happens as he ages here more and rushing naturally dries up? (At least it does for most QBs)
And then there’s questions on his work ethic/motivation. Right or wrong. I don’t put a ton of weight here personally, but just another thing to move me off him combined with everything else.
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