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Trade advice

Postby jab3120 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:09 pm

For team in sig and in win now mode. I feel I have plenty of WRs that are young and could use 1 more stud, would you make/offer the trade below and see where it goes?

I Give: 24 late 1st, & Dotson

I Get: C.Kupp
10 Team Non-PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1 DEF (Return Yds *25 yds per 1pt & Ret TD's only count for the player)

QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid, T.Kraft
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,

IR: J.K. Dobbins
IR: E.Hull
IR: K.Mitchell
IR: R.Stevenson

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Re: Trade advice

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:35 pm

I'm not zeroed in on Cooper Kupp's price tag. Seems high but maybe about right. That whole team could fall apart and so could Kupp at that age. I'm worried but it's not like you are giving up the farm. I'm uncomfortable with it but I'd also guess it's what it would take.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Trade advice

Postby jab3120 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:37 pm

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:35 pm I'm not zeroed in on Cooper Kupp's price tag. Seems high but maybe about right. That whole team could fall apart and so could Kupp at that age. I'm worried but it's not like you are giving up the farm. I'm uncomfortable with it but I'd also guess it's what it would take.

Well I haven't made the offer yet, which is why I am here in the forums. You say that price is a little high? Any suggestions on what you would offer with my roster and future picks instead, or would you just hold?
10 Team Non-PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1 DEF (Return Yds *25 yds per 1pt & Ret TD's only count for the player)

QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid, T.Kraft
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,

IR: J.K. Dobbins
IR: E.Hull
IR: K.Mitchell
IR: R.Stevenson

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Re: Trade advice

Postby tstafford » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:42 am

I don't think it's high. If you are confident that team is a contender and that the pick will be back half of the round, I think it's more than fine. Also it isn't like Kupp is a one year rental. He's only 30.

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Re: Trade advice

Postby TheTroll » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:29 am

tstafford wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:42 am I don't think it's high. If you are confident that team is a contender and that the pick will be back half of the round, I think it's more than fine. Also it isn't like Kupp is a one year rental. He's only 30.
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Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Trade advice

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:24 am

Fair starting offer based on Kupps age and seems like Dotson is gaining steam with some managers. All in, I would much rather have Kupp for a title push over the next couple of seasons.

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Re: Trade advice

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:37 am

jab3120 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:37 pm
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:35 pm I'm not zeroed in on Cooper Kupp's price tag. Seems high but maybe about right. That whole team could fall apart and so could Kupp at that age. I'm worried but it's not like you are giving up the farm. I'm uncomfortable with it but I'd also guess it's what it would take.

Well I haven't made the offer yet, which is why I am here in the forums. You say that price is a little high? Any suggestions on what you would offer with my roster and future picks instead, or would you just hold?
I think I would prefer replacing Dotson with Deebo. It allows your bench to continue to grow in value and keeps you younger. And I think Deebo has had his best season already.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Trade advice

Postby jab3120 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:36 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:37 am
jab3120 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:37 pm
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:35 pm I'm not zeroed in on Cooper Kupp's price tag. Seems high but maybe about right. That whole team could fall apart and so could Kupp at that age. I'm worried but it's not like you are giving up the farm. I'm uncomfortable with it but I'd also guess it's what it would take.

Well I haven't made the offer yet, which is why I am here in the forums. You say that price is a little high? Any suggestions on what you would offer with my roster and future picks instead, or would you just hold?
I think I would prefer replacing Dotson with Deebo. It allows your bench to continue to grow in value and keeps you younger. And I think Deebo has had his best season already.
Good option to be honest, only issue is the Kupp owner is the one who gave me Deebo and has told me he doesn't want him. Otherwise I would offer exactly that
10 Team Non-PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1 DEF (Return Yds *25 yds per 1pt & Ret TD's only count for the player)

QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid, T.Kraft
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,

IR: J.K. Dobbins
IR: E.Hull
IR: K.Mitchell
IR: R.Stevenson

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Re: Trade advice

Postby dblj1199 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:12 am

I think that it is a fair offer, but do you really need it? My biggest issue with the Rams is the o-line was a mess last year and Stafford was abused back there and I don't think they made any major upgrades in the off season besides a 3rd and 5th rd picks. That is the big thing that scares me about them. On top of that they play the best team in the NFL twice, ( I'm a 49ers fan) and a very good team with a improved defense in Seattle, it could be another long season in LA-LA Land.
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10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP


Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker

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2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Trade advice

Postby jab3120 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:38 pm

So I offered the trade and he countered with below.

I Get:
E.Mitchell, C.Kupp, 24 2nd, 24 3rd & 24 3rd

I Give:
S.Perine, J.Dotson, 24 1st, & 24 1st

I countered with
I Give:
S.Perine, J.Dotson 24 1st, & 24 2nd

I Get:
T.Spears, C.Kupp, & 24 3rd
10 Team Non-PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1 DEF (Return Yds *25 yds per 1pt & Ret TD's only count for the player)

QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid, T.Kraft
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,

IR: J.K. Dobbins
IR: E.Hull
IR: K.Mitchell
IR: R.Stevenson

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Re: Trade advice

Postby Gazzerk » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:22 pm

jab3120 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:38 pm So I offered the trade and he countered with below.

I Get:
E.Mitchell, C.Kupp, 24 2nd, 24 3rd & 24 3rd

I Give:
S.Perine, J.Dotson, 24 1st, & 24 1st

I countered with
I Give:
S.Perine, J.Dotson 24 1st, & 24 2nd

I Get:
T.Spears, C.Kupp, & 24 3rd
I hate his counter a lot. That’s an insane ask. Perine, Dotson and 2 1sts for Kupp and some junk. I think Perine is actually a fairly valuable piece to a contender. I guess I would do your counter back to them if you really want Kupp. I personally don’t know if I would want to buy Kupp right now at that price. I know he is great but we have no idea how he is going to come back from that injury. Tight rope is no joke and he’s a 30 year old receiver that already lacked speed. It could easily be an injury that accelerates a decline then you’re holding the bag. I also don’t think Stafford is going to last very long before he walks for good. I would personally rather package Dotson and the 1st for a different elite level receiver or a younger guy on his way up. However, I may be a bit lower on the Rams outlook than others.
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, T. Tracy
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
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Def- Chiefs

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2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd


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