Deep rookie fliers

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby Yarnith » Sat May 27, 2023 9:04 pm

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Wow, that is a steal, but I don’t do IDP
with Higgins coming up on FA in that offense? yes please.
Nacua is on the Rams. You may be thinking of Charlie Jones.
What I really meant was Jefferson coming up on FA in the Rams offense. If your names not Kupp your jobs in jeopardy because they are all meh. I mean Ben Skowronek? who?
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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Sun May 28, 2023 6:17 am

Van Jefferson is gonna be a sneaky good play this season. Remember he didn't play at all with Stafford last season. He had wolford, pirkens and, ugh, Mayfield throwing the ball to him.

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby halfbaked88 » Sun May 28, 2023 6:51 am

Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:17 am Van Jefferson is gonna be a sneaky good play this season. Remember he didn't play at all with Stafford last season. He had wolford, pirkens and, ugh, Mayfield throwing the ball to him.
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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Sun May 28, 2023 6:55 am

Michael Wilson = Bryan Edwards.

Buyer beware.

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun May 28, 2023 7:05 am

halfbaked88 wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:51 am
Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:17 am Van Jefferson is gonna be a sneaky good play this season. Remember he didn't play at all with Stafford last season. He had wolford, pirkens and, ugh, Mayfield throwing the ball to him.
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I don't think the argument is Jefferson is some elite talent with a long window of future projected production. It's all about this year- poor WR depth esp after letting ARob go. There's even talk Higbee could be let go because of his cap hit. That'd free up a ton of targets.
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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby halfbaked88 » Sun May 28, 2023 7:30 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 7:05 am
halfbaked88 wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:51 am
Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:17 am Van Jefferson is gonna be a sneaky good play this season. Remember he didn't play at all with Stafford last season. He had wolford, pirkens and, ugh, Mayfield throwing the ball to him.
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I don't think the argument is Jefferson is some elite talent with a long window of future projected production. It's all about this year- poor WR depth esp after letting ARob go. There's even talk Higbee could be let go because of his cap hit. That'd free up a ton of targets.
He's a best ball only WR for me. If I'm starting Van Jefferson in a line-up league I know I'm not contending. That's how I see it. He's a roster clogger on a bad offense. Rather have any 3rd.

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby Lumps » Sun May 28, 2023 7:57 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:55 am Michael Wilson = Bryan Edwards.

Buyer beware.
Oof. Strong disagree here. :snooty:
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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby raiders444 » Sun May 28, 2023 8:26 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:55 am Michael Wilson = Bryan Edwards.

Buyer beware.
as a former Edwards owner and current Wilson owner, i thought the knock on Edwards was his inability to get any separation from DBs, where Wilson's strength is his ability to separate. I think Wilson also supposedly has elite deceleration
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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby Bronco Billy » Sun May 28, 2023 8:42 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:55 am Michael Wilson = Bryan Edwards.

Buyer beware.
This I have to hear. Could you flesh this out a bit and explain how you came up with this equivalence, or is this just a random thought hit-and-run post?

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby Jigga94 » Sun May 28, 2023 8:53 am

Aside from the comp above (don't really agree with it either), Wilson is getting a lot of hype and I think he's going to be priced out of where I'd be taking a stab on him. Definitely not a deep rookie anymore

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby jordanzs » Sun May 28, 2023 10:16 am

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Sun May 28, 2023 10:45 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 8:42 am
YouMightDieTryin wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:55 am Michael Wilson = Bryan Edwards.

Buyer beware.
This I have to hear. Could you flesh this out a bit and explain how you came up with this equivalence, or is this just a random thought hit-and-run post?
It is the later, but because of this:
Jigga94 wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 8:53 am Aside from the comp above (don't really agree with it either), Wilson is getting a lot of hype and I think he's going to be priced out of where I'd be taking a stab on him. Definitely not a deep rookie anymore
I think he's a great athletic WR where he was being drafted. He showed out in the Senior Bowl and also flashed well (when he was able to) play in season. But due to the new hype, propelled into a possible starting gig, and everything else he's going to push up charts and lead to having to reach for him if you want to draft him. Similar trajectory that Edwards had previously. Is HE better than Edwards - probably, but he has to be on the field to prove it.

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby Bronco Billy » Sun May 28, 2023 10:50 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 10:45 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 8:42 am
YouMightDieTryin wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:55 am Michael Wilson = Bryan Edwards.

Buyer beware.
This I have to hear. Could you flesh this out a bit and explain how you came up with this equivalence, or is this just a random thought hit-and-run post?
It is the later, but because of this:
Jigga94 wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 8:53 am Aside from the comp above (don't really agree with it either), Wilson is getting a lot of hype and I think he's going to be priced out of where I'd be taking a stab on him. Definitely not a deep rookie anymore
I think he's a great athletic WR where he was being drafted. He showed out in the Senior Bowl and also flashed well (when he was able to) play in season. But due to the new hype, propelled into a possible starting gig, and everything else he's going to push up charts and lead to having to reach for him if you want to draft him. Similar trajectory that Edwards had previously. Is HE better than Edwards - probably, but he has to be on the field to prove it.
Thanks for the explanation. So you’re comparing the rise in ADP given the perception of drafters due to the situation and not comparing their physical attributes and style of play. Would that be correct?

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby Cameron Giles » Sun May 28, 2023 10:57 am

raiders444 wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 8:26 am
YouMightDieTryin wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:55 am Michael Wilson = Bryan Edwards.

Buyer beware.
as a former Edwards owner and current Wilson owner, i thought the knock on Edwards was his inability to get any separation from DBs, where Wilson's strength is his ability to separate. I think Wilson also supposedly has elite deceleration
It's a bad comp, but I can see the reasoning in terms of value.

Edwards was more of a possession WR, who won at catchpoint and could win in contested catch situations. He wasn't a pure separator, but he could get open at a competent level in college. Kind of like a "we have Allen Robinson at home" player.

Wilson looks like a better route runner, but wasn't nearly as productive as Edwards in college in terms of advance stats.

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Re: Deep rookie fliers

Postby Prison_Mike » Sun May 28, 2023 11:03 am

Parker Washington is a guy I've been prioritizing late. Decent profile (somewhat middling production, but early breakout and early declare), a fantasy-friendly skillset (hands, speed, YAC), and an exploitable depth chart in what should be an explosive offense. As a prospect he's super-lite ARSB. Good profile, nuked by NFL draft capital. But he's 10 times cheaper than ARSB ever was.

Not saying he'll be that guy, and I don't expect immediate production, but I think there's a decent chance he gains value from current 4th round/waiver wire spot


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