Is this enough for JJ? Counter - UPDATE

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Is this enough for JJ? Counter - UPDATE

Postby CYates » Mon May 22, 2023 7:50 pm

Team 1 below.....

I have been middle of the pack for 2 years so I am thinking of offering JJ for this package.

I give JJ
I get B Young, ASB, S Laporta and the 1.07 devy pick.

Thoughts?

UPDATE

So the Counter offer is

I give JJ
I get B Young, ASB and D Washington and 2.03 Devy Pick
Last edited by CYates on Wed May 24, 2023 3:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
12 Team, DEVY Superflex
QB - J Burrow, K Pickett, B Mayfield, H Hooker, Z Wilson, M Trabisky
RB - J Williams, K Miller, R Johnson, E Gray, C Hubberd, Z White, T Allgeier, D Forman, C Evans, D McBride
WR - J Jefferson, M Pittman, C Watson, J Dotson, Z Flowers, T Marshall, R Rice, X Hutchinson, T Tucker, K Boutte, P Washington
TE - G Dulcich, H Hurst, L Musgrave, H Bryant, N Gray,
DEVY - T Van Dyke, T Citizen
2024 Rookie Picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Team 2
8 Team Dynasty SF Best Ball league
2QB, 4RB, 6WR, 2TE, 1Flex, 1SF

QB - CJ Stroud, A Richardson, K Cousins, M Jones, S Howell, B Zappie, A O'Connell
RB - B Robinson, B Hall, D McBride, I Abanikanda, T Algeier, K McIntosh, K Mitchell, J McLaughlin, J Wilson
WR - K Toney, J Mingo, T Marshall, G Davis, J Smith-Schuster, M Wilson, M Jones, AT Perry, D Wicks, D Thompkins, X Gipson,
TE - , T McBride, J Johnson, M Gesicki, D Bellinger, N Gray, E Higgins, D Smythe D Washington
2024 Picks 101, 2.01, 3.01, 3.02, 3.08. 4.01, 5.01, 5.08, 6.01

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Re: Is this enough for JJ?

Postby BucBuc » Mon May 22, 2023 8:19 pm

I love ASB so for me it’s kinda close but I’d probably still hold JJ… if selling JJ I don’t want close I want to know I won the trade
TEAM 1
12 Team Half PPR Superflex ..1Qb , 2Rb, 3Wr,1 Te, 2Flex 1Superflex 1Def
QBs: Dak,Goff, Burrow
RBS: Bijan,Pacheco,D.Harris,Fournette,GibsonDillon,Penny, Darell Williams,Chestnut,Ty Chandler,M
Ingram, Goodson, K.Ingram
WR:Lamb,Tee,DJM,AJB, Boyd
TE Goedert,
DEF Eagles, Broncos,

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Re: Is this enough for JJ?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon May 22, 2023 8:46 pm

Not too bad, but with the draft being depleted in a devy format, I would hold here. Young + St Brown is a good pair, but not enough in case Young does not hit. I feel you need sure things if moving the best non-qb asset in dynasty.

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Re: Is this enough for JJ?

Postby TheTroll » Mon May 22, 2023 8:58 pm

I’d have a tough time JJ leaving me for this but nonpareil the offer is in thr ball park
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Is this enough for JJ?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue May 23, 2023 6:03 am

yes that is enough
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Is this enough for JJ?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue May 23, 2023 6:04 am

i would doubt very highly they are adding bryce young to upgrade arsb to justin jefferson. the responses here are amazing, saying thats not enough but im like i dont think theres any chance this offer get accepted lol
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Is this enough for JJ?

Postby Straycatz2 » Tue May 23, 2023 10:38 am

Roughly 5 1st and a 2nd for JJ? Seems good value and all the pieces coming back can gain value where as JJ is at peak already.

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Re: Is this enough for JJ?

Postby CYates » Tue May 23, 2023 4:26 pm

Straycatz2 wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:38 am Roughly 5 1st and a 2nd for JJ? Seems good value and all the pieces coming back can gain value where as JJ is at peak already.
That's kinda of what I was thinking. Seems like plenty of young players and picks for 1 player.
12 Team, DEVY Superflex
QB - J Burrow, K Pickett, B Mayfield, H Hooker, Z Wilson, M Trabisky
RB - J Williams, K Miller, R Johnson, E Gray, C Hubberd, Z White, T Allgeier, D Forman, C Evans, D McBride
WR - J Jefferson, M Pittman, C Watson, J Dotson, Z Flowers, T Marshall, R Rice, X Hutchinson, T Tucker, K Boutte, P Washington
TE - G Dulcich, H Hurst, L Musgrave, H Bryant, N Gray,
DEVY - T Van Dyke, T Citizen
2024 Rookie Picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Team 2
8 Team Dynasty SF Best Ball league
2QB, 4RB, 6WR, 2TE, 1Flex, 1SF

QB - CJ Stroud, A Richardson, K Cousins, M Jones, S Howell, B Zappie, A O'Connell
RB - B Robinson, B Hall, D McBride, I Abanikanda, T Algeier, K McIntosh, K Mitchell, J McLaughlin, J Wilson
WR - K Toney, J Mingo, T Marshall, G Davis, J Smith-Schuster, M Wilson, M Jones, AT Perry, D Wicks, D Thompkins, X Gipson,
TE - , T McBride, J Johnson, M Gesicki, D Bellinger, N Gray, E Higgins, D Smythe D Washington
2024 Picks 101, 2.01, 3.01, 3.02, 3.08. 4.01, 5.01, 5.08, 6.01

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Re: Is this enough for JJ?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue May 23, 2023 4:31 pm

He's the best WR in the NFL. But this is a solid offer. Trade calculator has this about 970 for you to 1100 for them. If you believe in these guys, go for it.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Is this enough for JJ? Counter - UPDATE

Postby CYates » Wed May 24, 2023 3:51 pm

UPDATE

So the Counter offer is

I give JJ
I get B Young, ASB and D Washington and 2.03 Devy Pick

Thoughts?
12 Team, DEVY Superflex
QB - J Burrow, K Pickett, B Mayfield, H Hooker, Z Wilson, M Trabisky
RB - J Williams, K Miller, R Johnson, E Gray, C Hubberd, Z White, T Allgeier, D Forman, C Evans, D McBride
WR - J Jefferson, M Pittman, C Watson, J Dotson, Z Flowers, T Marshall, R Rice, X Hutchinson, T Tucker, K Boutte, P Washington
TE - G Dulcich, H Hurst, L Musgrave, H Bryant, N Gray,
DEVY - T Van Dyke, T Citizen
2024 Rookie Picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Team 2
8 Team Dynasty SF Best Ball league
2QB, 4RB, 6WR, 2TE, 1Flex, 1SF

QB - CJ Stroud, A Richardson, K Cousins, M Jones, S Howell, B Zappie, A O'Connell
RB - B Robinson, B Hall, D McBride, I Abanikanda, T Algeier, K McIntosh, K Mitchell, J McLaughlin, J Wilson
WR - K Toney, J Mingo, T Marshall, G Davis, J Smith-Schuster, M Wilson, M Jones, AT Perry, D Wicks, D Thompkins, X Gipson,
TE - , T McBride, J Johnson, M Gesicki, D Bellinger, N Gray, E Higgins, D Smythe D Washington
2024 Picks 101, 2.01, 3.01, 3.02, 3.08. 4.01, 5.01, 5.08, 6.01

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Re: Is this enough for JJ? Counter - UPDATE

Postby FiremanEd » Wed May 24, 2023 5:17 pm

Feels like Young + ARSB for JJ. Personally, I’m not sold that ARSB is anything special, despite his production. I think the offer is fair, but these aren’t the pieces I’d be swinging on personally.

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Re: Is this enough for JJ? Counter - UPDATE

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed May 24, 2023 7:50 pm

I prefer LaPorta
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Is this enough for JJ? Counter - UPDATE

Postby srlarson » Wed May 24, 2023 8:06 pm

not close for me....hold JJ
Empire 10 team 30man rosters QB, 2rb, 3Wr, TE, 2F, K (.5ppr RB's, ppr WR/TE)
redraft coming


Empire 12 team SF 30man rosters - QB, 2rb, 2wr, te, sf, Rb/Wr/Te flex, 2Rb/Wr Flex
(rb .5ppr, wr 1ppr, TE 1.5ppr) -
QB - Prescott, Cousins, M Jones, C. Rush
RB - JT, Chubb, J Cook, Hunt, Penny, Patterson, Foreman, Davis-Price, Henderson, Patterson
WR - Diggs, M Thomas, Gallup, K Phillips, Goodwin, Hollins, C Moore, raymond, reynolds, D robinson, J Watson
TE - Ertz, Brate, McBride, Akins, Gray
1.05,2.05,3.05,4.05

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Re: Is this enough for JJ? Counter - UPDATE

Postby dblj1199 » Wed May 24, 2023 8:14 pm

So you wanna give up the best dynasty asset for a wr 2 and a rookie qb that's unproven? Even the other deals aren't enough for me to move off of JJ here. Pass, I need a BIG overpay to move him.
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10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP


Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker

draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Is this enough for JJ? Counter - UPDATE

Postby TheTroll » Wed May 24, 2023 8:29 pm

dblj1199 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 8:14 pm So you wanna give up the best dynasty asset for a wr 2 and a rookie qb that's unproven? Even the other deals aren't enough for me to move off of JJ here. Pass, I need a BIG overpay to move him.
…and by big overpay, that means it’s a smash accept without pondering if it’s enough. If you have to poll us, then IMO it’s not enough. Lol.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5


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