Bijan for Ceedee and 2024 pick 13

[jponte3]

Team in signature with gibbs , Roschonn and Izzy instead of the picks listed.
Was offered bijan for ceedee and 2024 2nd that is almost guarenteed to be pick 13 due to the team being completely torn apart.
Just curious which side people prefer.
Thank you for any feedback.

[FKC]

I don't think you can turn down Bijan here. RB's like this don't come around very often making it hard to turn down an offer like this. I would gladly accept this trade.

[The.Big.Spank]

I always prefer an elite WR to an elite RB, but running backs are the bane of my existence. I am kind of a zero RB guy if there is such a thing. This year is a great example and its not the first time this happened, its the norm. I have ETN and Walker. Left last season thinking I finally have a nice 1-2 punch at RB. Now both are in a full RBBC. I just hate running backs. Did three start ups a couple of years back. Generally drafted Karryon Johnson, Mark Ingram, and I forget the third guy, all were replaced after the NFL draft, will never do a start up again BEFORE the NFL draft. Had Zeke, Barkley, David Johnson and Gurley on my team a few years back, had 1 season of having two good running backs at the same time. Zeke got suspended twice, Barkley blew out his knees more than once, Gurley got arthritis, Johnson just stopped being Johnson.

Stick with the elite WR and your 1st.

[jponte3]

I always prefer an elite WR to an elite RB, but running backs are the bane of my existence. I am kind of a zero RB guy if there is such a thing. This year is a great example and its not the first time this happened, its the norm. I have ETN and Walker. Left last season thinking I finally have a nice 1-2 punch at RB. Now both are in a full RBBC. I just hate running backs.

This is definitely usually my style as well which is what scares me lol. Having bijan, Breece and gibbs definitely is a nice thing but I still usually build around wr/qb as well

[The.Big.Spank]

After winning the toilet bowl two years in a row I traded away my 2022 and 2023 first to get Hall. The two previous years my team had so many guys on IR I was starting two bench players for a month. I stupidly thought that was over and it could not possibly happen a third year in a row. Turns out it can. My 2023 ended up being the 1.04. Thanks Breece.

[FantasyFreak]

Bijan in half PPR

[TheTroll]

Bijan in half PPR

This

[Gator Sens]

I really don't like moving Lamb long term, but the value is with Robinson. The biggest issue I see with Robinson in value trades, is his value almost can't get higher unless he explodes.

[jponte3]

I really don't like moving Lamb long term, but the value is with Robinson. The biggest issue I see with Robinson in value trades, is his value almost can't get higher unless he explodes.

This is what I’ve been sayin for a while now. I’m not really sure how his value can go up in superflex. Having an asset whos value is already peaked before ever playing a snap is always a little bit scary. With that said, I do think I’d probably have the best roster in the league with bijan added so it’s tempting, although I also agree with not liking moving ceedee for the long term

[FantasyFreak]

I really don't like moving Lamb long term, but the value is with Robinson. The biggest issue I see with Robinson in value trades, is his value almost can't get higher unless he explodes.

This is what I’ve been sayin for a while now. I’m not really sure how his value can go up in superflex. Having an asset whos value is already peaked before ever playing a snap is always a little bit scary. With that said, I do think I’d probably have the best roster in the league with bijan added so it’s tempting, although I also agree with not liking moving ceedee for the long term

Lamb's value can't really go up either, though. It's not about value, it's about points. You're not making this trade to then turn around and trade the guy. You're trading for Bijan for the other value. Points. If you believe Bijan gives you an advantage for the next 2-3 years at a position that's harder to lock down and get top end production, you do it. You can trade for vets at WR that produce. like Lockett, Cooper, Cooks, that can produce decent numbers. You have to determine the value of how it works for roster construction. In half PPR, it skews towards the RB more than full PPR.

Don't take this personally, I just find that people talk about "value" a lot, in terms of trade value. I mean, if it's the case that Bijan were at peak value (trade wise), and he might be, then you should be trading him now. But if everybody else understands he's at peak trade value too, why would anybody trade for Bijan?

You do break it down a bit more, so not attacking your post, it just reminded me of something I have heard a lot lately, about "value". I wonder how many titles people would win though, if they just traded guys away at peak value. Like trading Justin Jefferson last off season, when a lot of people might have though he was at peak value too. It's a fine line, there's always risk. Looking back, people likely should have traded Saquon after his rookie year, but it can go either way.

[jponte3]

I really don't like moving Lamb long term, but the value is with Robinson. The biggest issue I see with Robinson in value trades, is his value almost can't get higher unless he explodes.

This is what I’ve been sayin for a while now. I’m not really sure how his value can go up in superflex. Having an asset whos value is already peaked before ever playing a snap is always a little bit scary. With that said, I do think I’d probably have the best roster in the league with bijan added so it’s tempting, although I also agree with not liking moving ceedee for the long term

Lamb's value can't really go up either, though. It's not about value, it's about points. You're not making this trade to then turn around and trade the guy. You're trading for Bijan for the other value. Points. If you believe Bijan gives you an advantage for the next 2-3 years at a position that's harder to lock down and get top end production, you do it. You can trade for vets at WR that produce. like Lockett, Cooper, Cooks, that can produce decent numbers. You have to determine the value of how it works for roster construction. In half PPR, it skews towards the RB more than full PPR.

Don't take this personally, I just find that people talk about "value" a lot, in terms of trade value. I mean, if it's the case that Bijan were at peak value (trade wise), and he might be, then you should be trading him now. But if everybody else understands he's at peak trade value too, why would anybody trade for Bijan?

You do break it down a bit more, so not attacking your post, it just reminded me of something I have heard a lot lately, about "value". I wonder how many titles people would win though, if they just traded guys away at peak value. Like trading Justin Jefferson last off season, when a lot of people might have though he was at peak value too. It's a fine line, there's always risk. Looking back, people likely should have traded Saquon after his rookie year, but it can go either way.

Yeah, definitely don’t take it personally and appreciate the feedback. I agree tho honestly. I think looking at value is a component of dynasty’s but I think focusing on pure value is something you need to do more as a rebuilding team. Focusing on “value” as a contending team can kinda leave you in a position where you never end up successfully making that push and actually winning because of exactly what you said where you don’t make the deal that could give you the significant advantage during the current win now window

[FantasyFreak]

This is what I’ve been sayin for a while now. I’m not really sure how his value can go up in superflex. Having an asset whos value is already peaked before ever playing a snap is always a little bit scary. With that said, I do think I’d probably have the best roster in the league with bijan added so it’s tempting, although I also agree with not liking moving ceedee for the long term

Lamb's value can't really go up either, though. It's not about value, it's about points. You're not making this trade to then turn around and trade the guy. You're trading for Bijan for the other value. Points. If you believe Bijan gives you an advantage for the next 2-3 years at a position that's harder to lock down and get top end production, you do it. You can trade for vets at WR that produce. like Lockett, Cooper, Cooks, that can produce decent numbers. You have to determine the value of how it works for roster construction. In half PPR, it skews towards the RB more than full PPR.

Don't take this personally, I just find that people talk about "value" a lot, in terms of trade value. I mean, if it's the case that Bijan were at peak value (trade wise), and he might be, then you should be trading him now. But if everybody else understands he's at peak trade value too, why would anybody trade for Bijan?

You do break it down a bit more, so not attacking your post, it just reminded me of something I have heard a lot lately, about "value". I wonder how many titles people would win though, if they just traded guys away at peak value. Like trading Justin Jefferson last off season, when a lot of people might have though he was at peak value too. It's a fine line, there's always risk. Looking back, people likely should have traded Saquon after his rookie year, but it can go either way.

Yeah, definitely don’t take it personally and appreciate the feedback. I agree tho honestly. I think looking at value is a component of dynasty’s but I think focusing on pure value is something you need to do more as a rebuilding team. Focusing on “value” as a contending team can kinda leave you in a position where you never end up successfully making that push and actually winning because of exactly what you said where you don’t make the deal that could give you the significant advantage during the current win now window

For sure. Honestly, I think rebuilding teams are far better off trading players in their prime, and you have to be honest with your time line. I would trade Bijan if I wasn't contending. I have him in 2 leagues, and am a contender in both. Why waste his prime, and a RB like him you are wasting a year of production, at a short shelf life. Rebuilders shouldn't be stashing Bijan. He's for contending teams. BUT, that doesn't mean you have to trade him to a top team. Target a team that's middle of the pack, that might think they are Bijan away from really contending. Aim at a team with little depth, get a future first next year, 2 years out, and some good young WR's.

Food for thought, but RB's have generally, a few years of good production, and why waste the risk of holding a year of that that would only hurt your potential points (assuming not on taxi), when you could spread a short shelf life position into more quality assets to help your rebuild.

I'm just confused on where you think you stand with your team, because I think Bijan and your WR's could be a contender, but I don't know the rest of our league's rosters. Your QB"s, and added rookies, I'd go with Bijan. See if he'll throw a 4th back, always good to get that little chip to use in a later deal, if you can.

[jponte3]

Lamb's value can't really go up either, though. It's not about value, it's about points. You're not making this trade to then turn around and trade the guy. You're trading for Bijan for the other value. Points. If you believe Bijan gives you an advantage for the next 2-3 years at a position that's harder to lock down and get top end production, you do it. You can trade for vets at WR that produce. like Lockett, Cooper, Cooks, that can produce decent numbers. You have to determine the value of how it works for roster construction. In half PPR, it skews towards the RB more than full PPR.

Don't take this personally, I just find that people talk about "value" a lot, in terms of trade value. I mean, if it's the case that Bijan were at peak value (trade wise), and he might be, then you should be trading him now. But if everybody else understands he's at peak trade value too, why would anybody trade for Bijan?

You do break it down a bit more, so not attacking your post, it just reminded me of something I have heard a lot lately, about "value". I wonder how many titles people would win though, if they just traded guys away at peak value. Like trading Justin Jefferson last off season, when a lot of people might have though he was at peak value too. It's a fine line, there's always risk. Looking back, people likely should have traded Saquon after his rookie year, but it can go either way.

Yeah, definitely don’t take it personally and appreciate the feedback. I agree tho honestly. I think looking at value is a component of dynasty’s but I think focusing on pure value is something you need to do more as a rebuilding team. Focusing on “value” as a contending team can kinda leave you in a position where you never end up successfully making that push and actually winning because of exactly what you said where you don’t make the deal that could give you the significant advantage during the current win now window

For sure. Honestly, I think rebuilding teams are far better off trading players in their prime, and you have to be honest with your time line. I would trade Bijan if I wasn't contending. I have him in 2 leagues, and am a contender in both. Why waste his prime, and a RB like him you are wasting a year of production, at a short shelf life. Rebuilders shouldn't be stashing Bijan. He's for contending teams. BUT, that doesn't mean you have to trade him to a top team. Target a team that's middle of the pack, that might think they are Bijan away from really contending. Aim at a team with little depth, get a future first next year, 2 years out, and some good young WR's.

Food for thought, but RB's have generally, a few years of good production, and why waste the risk of holding a year of that that would only hurt your potential points (assuming not on taxi), when you could spread a short shelf life position into more quality assets to help your rebuild.

I'm just confused on where you think you stand with your team, because I think Bijan and your WR's could be a contender, but I don't know the rest of our league's rosters. Your QB"s, and added rookies, I'd go with Bijan. See if he'll throw a 4th back, always good to get that little chip to use in a later deal, if you can.

Yeah I’m definitely leaning towards doing it. I added gibbs and roschonn and don’t have my first or 2nd in 24 so it feels like a perfect time to make the all in push anyways. In terms of competition I think it would put me as the clear favorite with probably only 1 or 2 other teams near a similar tier to my team if I make the deal