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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed May 17, 2023 9:56 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 9:15 am
M-Dub wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 9:00 am Size is definitely a concern for both guys, but at least Miami has displayed a willingness to give undersized backs like Mostert, Gaskin and even Ahmed a workhorse role. That was the one landing spot that would’ve made me comfortable drafting Gibbs as high as he was being mocked, so when Achane landed there instead, I was immediate intrigued by him as an “arbitrage” to Gibbs. Detroit, meanwhile, has not only given us zero indication that they’re willing to put a small back into a workhorse role, but they’ve actively avoided it. They already had a bigger, better version of Gibbs on their roster and they barely fed him 10-12 touches/game.

Also, I don’t think the touch competition is even remotely comparable. I’m no David Montgomery stan by any stretch, and I think the Lions made another stupid move by overpaying him rather than just re-signing locker room leader and fan favorite Jamaal Williams at a considerable discount. But he’s still a proven workhorse back, and there’s nobody on the Dolphins’ roster anywhere close to his ability.

Detroit loved Swift, but they lost faith in him to stay on the field and didn't think he had that extra gear to him as a player.

Gibbs didn't go 1st round so that Detroit could run him 30 times a game. He went 1st round because they can play him in a number of spots in that offense and get him the ball as a weapon.

Here's the Lions pass catchers:

Amon-Ra St. Brown (stud)
Jameson Williams (suspended six games, unproven)
Marvin Jones (washed)
Josh Reynolds (not good)
Tom Kennedy (?)
Sam LaPorta (rookie, unproven)
Brock Wright (??)
James Mitchell (???)

There is a path here for Gibbs to get the Reggie Bush treatment as a WR while also playing RB.

That said, I don't think Achane is as good as Gibbs, but Achane in his own right is a very good RB who can do a lot of the same things as GIbbs.
They also apparently got frustrated that he didn't develop from his college game, and certain tendencies as a runner he had.

Brett Kollmann would disagree with that path. He made the argument the situation from Bush's rookie year was not the same as Gibbs this year, in terms of what was on that team.

Laporta is also apparently tearing up rookie camp!!!
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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby heydangle » Sat May 20, 2023 7:28 pm

Got Achane at 1.08 in a single qb. Let’s go!

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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby Jigga94 » Sat May 20, 2023 8:08 pm

heydangle wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 7:28 pm Got Achane at 1.08 in a single qb. Let’s go!
Isn't that kind of high?

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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby jenkins.math » Sat May 20, 2023 9:00 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 8:08 pm
heydangle wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 7:28 pm Got Achane at 1.08 in a single qb. Let’s go!
Isn't that kind of high?
After Bijan, Gibbs, JSN, Addison, and Johnston there really isn’t a consensus order in that next group of Richardson, Flowers, Kincaid, Charbonnet, Achane, Miller. If your league values RBs highly then I’d say Achane at 1.08 makes a lot of sense.

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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby Jigga94 » Sun May 21, 2023 4:03 am

jenkins.math wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 9:00 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 8:08 pm
heydangle wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 7:28 pm Got Achane at 1.08 in a single qb. Let’s go!
Isn't that kind of high?
After Bijan, Gibbs, JSN, Addison, and Johnston there really isn’t a consensus order in that next group of Richardson, Flowers, Kincaid, Charbonnet, Achane, Miller. If your league values RBs highly then I’d say Achane at 1.08 makes a lot of sense.
Much prefer Charbonnet and Kendre at RB and all other 1st round picks (including Richardson) over a 188 lb RB. To each their own though.

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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby Yarnith » Sun May 21, 2023 6:35 am

Jigga94 wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 4:03 am
jenkins.math wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 9:00 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 8:08 pm

Isn't that kind of high?
After Bijan, Gibbs, JSN, Addison, and Johnston there really isn’t a consensus order in that next group of Richardson, Flowers, Kincaid, Charbonnet, Achane, Miller. If your league values RBs highly then I’d say Achane at 1.08 makes a lot of sense.
Much prefer Charbonnet and Kendre at RB and all other 1st round picks (including Richardson) over a 188 lb RB. To each their own though.
People once argued a 1st+ for Gus Edwards was a good trade too. Time will tell.
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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby hingle » Tue May 23, 2023 6:05 am

I was able to nab Archane at 2.01 for my team in my sig. Wasn't going into the draft looking to get him but it seemed like a no brainer to grab him since he slipped to 2.01.

Also grabbed Mayer at 2.07.
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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue May 23, 2023 8:08 am

You guys won't believe it but I was able to snag Achane at 1.01 in my oldest PPR league.

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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby joeya2001 » Tue May 23, 2023 8:30 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:08 am You guys won't believe it but I was able to snag Achane at 1.01 in my oldest PPR league.
I traded my 1.01 and 1.02 for him
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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby Ice » Tue May 23, 2023 9:50 am

joeya2001 wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:30 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:08 am You guys won't believe it but I was able to snag Achane at 1.01 in my oldest PPR league.
I traded my 1.01 and 1.02 for him
You guys must be in leagues with Mullets.

He is worth way more than that!
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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby Jigga94 » Tue May 23, 2023 9:56 am

I'd prefer several chanes at that price, not just a chane

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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue May 23, 2023 3:33 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:08 am You guys won't believe it but I was able to snag Achane at 1.01 in my oldest PPR league.
1.01
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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby M-Dub » Mon May 29, 2023 12:59 am

All I know is, this thread is making me pretty happy about getting him in the early 2nd round of my rookie draft that started immediately after the NFL draft. What should I be looking to cash out for? 2024 1st plus ___?
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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby lic217 » Mon May 29, 2023 4:11 am

Got him at 2.04 in draft right after nfl one. Definitely would trade him for a future first

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Re: Achane>Gibbs

Postby jordanzs » Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:03 pm

I took LaPorta over him at 2.1 in a recent draft. But I thought about grabbing Achane there.


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