I moved up from 1.07 to 1.06 for this exact reason. Ended up getting JSN. It went:
Bijan
Richardson
Young
Stroud
Addison
JSN
Gibbs
Since I took Bijan I passed on Gibbs to take JSN, the only share I have of him. But I could have gone Gibbs there too. So to me, this is your top seven. Take whoever is there. It might be Addison, it might not.
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D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
Re: The Official "What the @#$! to do at 1.07" thread
The drumbeat for Addison rounding out a "Big 7" is definitely strong. I've seen some rankers putting him in the same tier as JSN for sure - and in some cases even having Gibbs as the 7th guy where they're less of a believer. I think Addison is the obvious pick this year in redrafts if you're looking for a Rookie WR that's instantly going to contribute.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 10:22 amyeah, I didn't realize this was SF, my bad. Addison is definitely the play here. I think he outscores JSN this year, and possibly next year, too. Not convinced he shouldn't be in the same tier as JSN.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 10:13 am In the scenario where it's Bijan/Gibbs/JSN/3 QBs, I'm going Addison really easily at 1.07. I think he's a really good receiver. 1.08 is where I'd be not very thrilled to draft.
I think even at 1.08, I'm still relatively happy taking the punt on QJ, too. If he figures it out, he's got the ability to vault into the tier of Elite dynasty assets given his situation.
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I dont get what the issue is. Ive done a lot of 1 QB mocks on Sleeper in prep for my upcoming draft, and there are quite a few players I really like at the end of 1st/beginning of 2nd range.
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That’s the point. You can only select one…so who do you go with?
SF, PPR, 12 team, 12 player dynasty
QB- Lawrence, Fields, Tannehill (max 2 keepers, 3 rostered)
RB- Bijan Robinson, T Pollard, Allgeier, Charbonnet, Achane, J Wilson, Kelley, K Williams
WR- Lamb, Jeudy, Hill, C Olave, A Pierce, Shaheed, Bourne
TE- Goedert, Musgrave
QB- Lawrence, Fields, Tannehill (max 2 keepers, 3 rostered)
RB- Bijan Robinson, T Pollard, Allgeier, Charbonnet, Achane, J Wilson, Kelley, K Williams
WR- Lamb, Jeudy, Hill, C Olave, A Pierce, Shaheed, Bourne
TE- Goedert, Musgrave
Re: The Official "What the @#$! to do at 1.07" thread
So you're saying the 1.07 is just as good as the 1.12? That's a bad thing.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
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I have Addison grouped with a bunch. He is who I would take at 1.07 solely due to hope of 23 production. But long term outlook I have him similar to a lot of guys.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
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I can definitely see a higher ceiling for QJ, long term. Maybe for Zay Flowers, too - depends what you think of Bateman as a talent. (I personally still really like him)
There's an outside path for Mingo as a high-ceiling guy, as a moonshot.
But without a doubt (to me), from any WR in the class - Addison is the guy that's going to gain value the fastest this year as a Rookie. If you like Rookies that gain value immediately (and you should) then you should have no hesitation to hit the button on Addison.
In a years time you will have plenty of options to cash or hold, whereas you might still be "holding" on a few of the other guys that are going to take longer to develop and win target share.
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In my 1QB league I traded a 1st and 2nd next year for K. Toney and 1.6
Draft hall ended up K.Toney
1st round Kincaid
2nd round Mingo
3rd round C. Tillman
Pretty Happy with those picks. All have high ceilings and pretty high floors.
Draft hall ended up K.Toney
1st round Kincaid
2nd round Mingo
3rd round C. Tillman
Pretty Happy with those picks. All have high ceilings and pretty high floors.
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I like it.
16 teamer
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
Re: The Official "What the @#$! to do at 1.07" thread
Will all come down to where that pick ends up next year
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
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I tend to look at players more on the development side and aggressively trade for players I think are undervalued or have very high ceilings.
I don’t worry much where the asset traded will be the following year.
That said. This team was easily the highest scoring team in the league but had untimely injuries and played the weekly high scorer several times. As good as this team was in scoring it finished 4th worst last year.
Those should be late picks but one never really knows what the fantasy gods have in store.
I do think Toney may be the #1 WR for Mahomes if he can stay healthy. Big if but worth a future 2nd IMO
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The guys hamstrings are made of straw. He's electric when he's out there, but he walks off the field too much. For a future "late" 2nd it's worth the gamble.Ice wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 8:36 amI tend to look at players more on the development side and aggressively trade for players I think are undervalued or have very high ceilings.
I don’t worry much where the asset traded will be the following year.
That said. This team was easily the highest scoring team in the league but had untimely injuries and played the weekly high scorer several times. As good as this team was in scoring it finished 4th worst last year.
Those should be late picks but one never really knows what the fantasy gods have in store.
I do think Toney may be the #1 WR for Mahomes if he can stay healthy. Big if but worth a future 2nd IMO
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Agreed on Addison being part of a 'big 7'.mild wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 6:08 pmI can definitely see a higher ceiling for QJ, long term. Maybe for Zay Flowers, too - depends what you think of Bateman as a talent. (I personally still really like him)
There's an outside path for Mingo as a high-ceiling guy, as a moonshot.
But without a doubt (to me), from any WR in the class - Addison is the guy that's going to gain value the fastest this year as a Rookie. If you like Rookies that gain value immediately (and you should) then you should have no hesitation to hit the button on Addison.
In a years time you will have plenty of options to cash or hold, whereas you might still be "holding" on a few of the other guys that are going to take longer to develop and win target share.
I know many people are dropping him because of a perceived low ceiling.. but we as a fantasy community (and the NFL) are terrible at gauging actual ceilings for players. Despite his size/athleticism numbers players with his production profile have a very high ceiling and his film already shows a high floor player. Add to this a plush situation in MIN and he's the obvious choice for me at pick 7.
To further this point I was also able to trade Addison + the 2.07 for JSN in one league. I doubt I could've gotten them to bite on the 2.07 + any of the other 1st rounders.
QJ/Zay make up the next tier of players for me. Not as high on Zay as some people and would prefer to take the shot on QJ who has a much lower talent threshold to cross to be an elite fantasy asset than any WR in this class. Zay is a good player but he's a worse prospect than Bateman and this offense throws a fair amount of ambiguity for future fantasy points.
After this we enter the wild, wild west where any of these players could go from the 1.09 to the 2.06. So far the only players I've chosen here have been Levis, Kincaid, Charb, Rice, Reed, Mims and Mingo (who I'm not all that high on) but I've seen a lot of Achane, Miller, Downs.
Levis, Kincaid, Charb should probably be in their own tier but I've seen them drop in multiple leagues which is why I've grouped them in the same tier of ADP.
In TE premiums add Kincaid at the 1.07-1.09, Mayer and LaPorta to the large chunk of players.
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1QB
Tier 1- Bijan
Tier 2 - Gibbs
Tier 3 - JSN/Addison/Johston/Flowers/Richardson
Tier 4 - Kincaid/Achane/Kendre/Charbonnet/Mingo
This is where I am at currently. Kincaid is my target at #9 in one league. I also sit at #7 in another and might go Kincaid as well there if my top 6 go. Love that the news out of Buf is that he will be the slot WR.
Also his age doesn't scare me given that he didn't start playing until he was a senior in high school.
Tier 1- Bijan
Tier 2 - Gibbs
Tier 3 - JSN/Addison/Johston/Flowers/Richardson
Tier 4 - Kincaid/Achane/Kendre/Charbonnet/Mingo
This is where I am at currently. Kincaid is my target at #9 in one league. I also sit at #7 in another and might go Kincaid as well there if my top 6 go. Love that the news out of Buf is that he will be the slot WR.
Also his age doesn't scare me given that he didn't start playing until he was a senior in high school.
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