Jameson Williams Thread

[FantasyFreak]

Let’s hear some buy/sell stories since the news. I’m looking to make an offer on my tanker squad. Thinking about trying to ship MAndrews for Jamo and a pick upgrade

Jameson is a great buy for rebuilders/tankers. He's a great way to shift productive value to unproductive value during his suspension. At a minimum, I'd expect a value increase right before his suspension is to end. Whether you sell at that point is dealer's choice.

I like the gambling themed analogy. Very fitting.

[yinzername]

Let’s hear some buy/sell stories since the news. I’m looking to make an offer on my tanker squad. Thinking about trying to ship MAndrews for Jamo and a pick upgrade

Jameson is a great buy for rebuilders/tankers. He's a great way to shift productive value to unproductive value during his suspension. At a minimum, I'd expect a value increase right before his suspension is to end. Whether you sell at that point is dealer's choice.

i like this. I had the production shift in mind to keep my MPF down for QB1 in 2024. But I had not though of the value spike at week 7, this could be a sneaky way to flip a 24 2nd now for a 24 1st when he comes back. that's good stuff

so do you have an opinion on the value gap between him and MAndrews?

[gpaok]

Love how I had Calvin Ridley and now Jameson back to back years with gambling issues. What is going on.

[Bronco Billy]

Love how I had Calvin Ridley and now Jameson back to back years with gambling issues. What is going on.

Hmmm. A common link. Maybe you are the problem.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Love how I had Calvin Ridley and now Jameson back to back years with gambling issues. What is going on.

Hmmm. A common link. Maybe you are the problem.

That’s just science.

[Valhalla]

Love how I had Calvin Ridley and now Jameson back to back years with gambling issues. What is going on.

Stop gambling on these gamblers, you addict. No point in denying it. Clearly you're an addict if you're on these forums.

[murphysxm]

Love how I had Calvin Ridley and now Jameson back to back years with gambling issues. What is going on.

I bet you have ideas

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Love how I had Calvin Ridley and now Jameson back to back years with gambling issues. What is going on.

Maybe you could parlay the two of them into a lottery pick.

[FantasyFreak]

I just moved him for a future first (late) in a SF/TE premium. Other owner is a really good owner, and has more risk tolerance than me. Too many red flags for me. The last straw was when I found out he flew to Vegas 24 hours after his suspension to gamble and go to fights (that he'd likely gambled on too). There's too many things that lead me to believe he's too immature to develop into what I thought he could be. Strike vs the PCP and and the smoke that has been building around him and his decision making/head space over the past year has led me to reset on the pick.

PS. Can we change his nickname from Jamo to Jameson Shill-iams? Seems appropriate considering his propensity for gambling, and how he lured so many of us in with that big season of his.

[gogobradyarm]

I hated to do it, but I just sold for a 24 1st. Hoping it's mid.

[Patsfan86]

I hated to do it, but I just sold for a 24 1st. Hoping it's mid.

It’ll be 1.01

[Pullo Vision]

Let’s hear some buy/sell stories since the news. I’m looking to make an offer on my tanker squad. Thinking about trying to ship MAndrews for Jamo and a pick upgrade

Jameson is a great buy for rebuilders/tankers. He's a great way to shift productive value to unproductive value during his suspension. At a minimum, I'd expect a value increase right before his suspension is to end. Whether you sell at that point is dealer's choice.

i like this. I had the production shift in mind to keep my MPF down for QB1 in 2024. But I had not though of the value spike at week 7, this could be a sneaky way to flip a 24 2nd now for a 24 1st when he comes back. that's good stuff

so do you have an opinion on the value gap between him and MAndrews?

I keep typing different answers to this, but it's hard to answer because it's so team/league dependent. On top of that, Jameson has such a wide range of outcomes, both dynasty and redraft. Valuations are going to be so wide. We're not talking Diggs vs Andrews here- established but older top tier producers.

Assuming the right circumstances (contender, or trying to avoid Jameson's bust potential for a more stable/predictable asset), I wouldn't hesitate to add a late 2nd to the young potential for Andrews. Depending on the draft, I could easily see doing a mid or even early 2nd.

But, I don't really like formulating trades like that- two youth pieces for an older producer. It can easily blow up in the face of either side. I'd prefer a 2 for 2 (or more pieces), where each side gives a young and old piece, one being production, the other potential. Something like Jameson+Hopkins for Andrews+Tua would be much more interesting to balance out, and has youth, production, risk and potential on both sides.

[Patsfan86]

I knows it’s a different position but Gibbs being drafted this year as an explosive playmaker is also just not good for Jameson. That 41 yard run Jameson had last year is going to go to Gibbs now. I don’t see any significant target share for Williams now. I think he can do exactly what Detroit drafted him for but for fantasy it seems now more than ever that he just won’t get the volume he needs

[murphysxm]

I knows it’s a different position but Gibbs being drafted this year as an explosive playmaker is also just not good for Jameson. That 41 yard run Jameson had last year is going to go to Gibbs now. I don’t see any significant target share for Williams now. I think he can do exactly what Detroit drafted him for but for fantasy it seems now more than ever that he just won’t get the volume he needs

This seems to be quite a stretch to me.

[Patsfan86]

I knows it’s a different position but Gibbs being drafted this year as an explosive playmaker is also just not good for Jameson. That 41 yard run Jameson had last year is going to go to Gibbs now. I don’t see any significant target share for Williams now. I think he can do exactly what Detroit drafted him for but for fantasy it seems now more than ever that he just won’t get the volume he needs

This seems to be quite a stretch to me.

Pass attempts are pass attempts, wether they are to a WR, RB, Or TE. Where do you see Jameson getting substantial fantasy volume from now? Gibbs will take away targets from every player. Goff especially used to love checking down to Gurley