1st round draft quick reactions?

[Bot101]

From a SF standpoint:
Bijan and ARich are 1 and 2, not necessarily in that order. Then I think it's Young, Stroud, Gibbs, and JSN at 3, 4, 5, and 6 with JSN being 5 or 6 but the QBs and Gibbs you can argue will vary. After 6, for me, I'm willing to listen to any of the first round WRs, Achane, Miller, Levis, or even Charbonnet as the 7th guy. If you throw someone else in there, I'll buy it. I think after the first 6, it's a crap shoot. So much for "2023 is the class you want". There's always next year though, right?

I don’t think - in the 20 years I’ve been doing fantasy football - that I’ve ever seen a draft class this hyped fall so flat. This is rough.

I dont agree with this.

Bijan, Gibbs, Achane, Miller all landed well. Theres still rnd 4 where I hope Abanikanda and Roschon land in decent places.

We had a ton of fantasy relevant WRs go in rnd 1 and day 2.

We had 1 rnd 1 TE and 3 go early rnd 2 that all have potential.

And we had 3 QBs go top 5 and another go early rnd 2.


I think the issue with the class is it lacks those early heavy hitters at the top people covet. But I recall every forum whining about last years class and nit picking every single flaw on those prospects top to bottom. We had more fantasy relevant players get day 1 or 2 capital in this class than last years class.

[Cameron Giles]

I really think Zay Flowers to Baltimore is being underrated as a talent to landing spot.

Everything Baltimore has done recently is telling you they're going to throw more going forward. Lamar is locked long-term. Flowers is a three-level beast, who can win outside and inside.

The production won't be there immediately in Year 1, but Odell is a one-year deal and Baltimore is clearly not that high on Bateman right now (despite him being impressive in short stints).

Baltimore is going to pass more…yada yada yada. When have I heard that before? Jackson isn’t a passer. And when he does pass he funnels everything through Andrews. Prepared to be incredibly frustrated with Flowers. He may have done good games now and then but the consistency will not be there and he’ll be on your bench for his tri-annual big game.

- Todd Monken
- Guaranteed $15M to Odell Beckham coming off an ACL tear
- Rumored to have been in negotiations for DeAndre Hopkins pre-draft.
- Spent 1st round pick on a WR

doesn't scream "run the ball".

[Cameron Giles]

I dont agree with this.

Bijan, Gibbs, Achane, Miller all landed well. Theres still rnd 4 where I hope Abanikanda and Roschon land in decent places.

We had a ton of fantasy relevant WRs go in rnd 1 and day 2.

We had 1 rnd 1 TE and 3 go early rnd 2 that all have potential.

And we had 3 QBs go top 5 and another go early rnd 2.I think the issue with the class is it lacks those early heavy hitters at the top people covet. But I recall every forum whining about last years class and nit picking every single flaw on those prospects top to bottom. We had more fantasy relevant players get day 1 or 2 capital in this class than last years class.

It's an interesting discussion, because 2023 is tied for the 2nd-deepest skill position class in the last 11 years.

# of skill position talent drafted in the first three rounds:

2013: 26
2014: 35
2015: 30
2016: 22
2017: 34
2018: 29
2019: 33
2020: 36
2021: 32
2022: 32
2023: 35

There's not a lot of juicy landing spots, but then again, it's rare to have a class that has a lot of those. Usually you get a few that boost a player.

I get a little of the disappointment in this class, because there were early narratives that made this class something that it wasn't, but big picture I don't see the rest. Sure, there's not a huge difference between the mid-to-late 1st and the early-to-mid 2nd...but that's kind of the point of a deep draft class.

[Shcritters]

Some additional commentary on my post:
- I remember last year when people were saying trade mid22 1sts for late23 1sts. 23 was supposed to be so deep that mid-2nds were equivalent to 23 late 1sts.
- I agree that there are some good landing spots - Addison, QJ, Flowers all come to mind - but that’s mid 1st in 1QB and late 1st I’m SF. Beyond that, it’s one big tier from late 1st through mid 2nd, none of which are super appealing.
- this is likely the best TE draft in a while… but unless you’re in TE Prem leagues that isn’t very exciting to the fantasy community.

All said, the hype for the 23 class was off the charts… and it has been slightly underwhelming. The gap between those two is what I’m talking about as the biggest disappointment I’ve seen in my fantasy lifetime.

[Jigga94]

Bijan > Hall and the QBs are way better this year, but after that the top end of 22 was a bit better than this year imo. You would've been much better off with a mid 1st last year than a mid 1st this year. However, I'd argue a mid 2nd this year is on par with the late 1st of last year.

Just different classes all around

QB better in 23 all around
Bijan is at the top and then Hall, Walker and Gibbs right behind. After that, there's a lot of depth for the 23 RB.
WR was better all around in 22
TE all around better in 23

[CGW]

Just saw KW3 go for a late 2023 1st and early 2nd. Seems like an over reaction, but what do I know.

[FantasyFreak]

Just saw KW3 go for a late 2023 1st and early 2nd. Seems like an over reaction, but what do I know.

Terrible. I wish I could get him for that. This class in a 1 QB league is awful at that range vs a guy of Walker's capability.

[TimeWillTell]

I used 1.04 and 1.05 for future picks. Kept 1.01 and 1.03. The uncertainty and lack of studs is disappointing but as always there's plenty of rookie fever.

[Tvols]

I really think Zay Flowers to Baltimore is being underrated as a talent to landing spot.

Everything Baltimore has done recently is telling you they're going to throw more going forward. Lamar is locked long-term. Flowers is a three-level beast, who can win outside and inside.

The production won't be there immediately in Year 1, but Odell is a one-year deal and Baltimore is clearly not that high on Bateman right now (despite him being impressive in short stints).

Baltimore is going to pass more…yada yada yada. When have I heard that before? Jackson isn’t a passer. And when he does pass he funnels everything through Andrews. Prepared to be incredibly frustrated with Flowers. He may have done good games now and then but the consistency will not be there and he’ll be on your bench for his tri-annual big game.

I have to agree , they are setting up to pass can Lamar handle that, time will tell. I somehow do not see Lamar as any sort of pocket passer but for 260 millions reason hope he learns how to, he has not be able to come from behind and when he gets in tough games with good teams he is going the have to bring them back to be consider a top QB. Im not a fan but kudos to Lamar for getting paid dumb but Kudos.

[FantasyFreak]

IMO there is a tier break after 2. Gibbs is a tier above the WR's. 12th overall for a RB is huge capital, and he has an elite receiving profile. He should be the pick at 2, or trade back. As much as I like JSN, you need to get him at 3, he's not in a great spot to be an elite FF asset. He's a really good player, but he's not a Chase level prospect or anything. This class didn't have any elite prospects at the WR position, it doesn't happen every year.

Two top 12 backs in this class, that doesn't happen all that often. Gibbs got the capital you should feel confident they have a plan for him, and it likely involves catching the ball quite a bit.