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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:31 am

NWABCS wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:25 am Is there ANYONE going today that could get in a spot where you go "maybe he's an end of the first guy?"

Like say Mixon gets released and the Bengals draft Roschon Johnson or Israel Abanikanda?

I dunno. This draft makes me sad. It isn't "well all the best guys are gone, do I take Bishop Sankey" like 2014 (Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, Carlos Hyde, and Brandin Cooks were gone) but I feel dirty. I have 1.02, 1.04, and 1.05 in a league and after the first 6 or 7 spots, I feel like you can throw a dart at the rest and hope you get lucky.
I don't know if there are any starting jobs clearly available in the 4th, but Roschon in Dallas or Chase Brown somewhere would be interesting.

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby abloom » Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:34 am

NWABCS wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:25 am Is there ANYONE going today that could get in a spot where you go "maybe he's an end of the first guy?"

Like say Mixon gets released and the Bengals draft Roschon Johnson or Israel Abanikanda?

I dunno. This draft makes me sad. It isn't "well all the best guys are gone, do I take Bishop Sankey" like 2014 (Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, Carlos Hyde, and Brandin Cooks were gone) but I feel dirty. I have 1.02, 1.04, and 1.05 in a league and after the first 6 or 7 spots, I feel like you can throw a dart at the rest and hope you get lucky.
Rams, cards, bungles, all have potential for rbs
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby halfbaked88 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:47 am

Can someone explain how it's possible to play RB without an ACL?

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby abloom » Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:53 am

halfbaked88 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:47 am Can someone explain how it's possible to play RB without an ACL?
I mean they can play, they will just suck
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby Bronco Billy » Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:58 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:15 pm Usually the draft gives us clarity but now it’s even more muddled than before. Can we just go next to 2024
Love this kind of thinking. Smells like there is going to be some prime opportunity.

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby tstafford » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:05 am

In 1QB after the 1.03 (maybe 1.04) the move might be to trade down for multiple picks (like a late first plus early 2nd). This draft is bad enough that having multiple bites at the apple could be better. I'm not totally sold on Flowers or QJ. I like Addison - solid player and landing spot. But I admit he would probably be a mid to late first in a better draft. Could be better to have a pair like Wilson and Achane over QJ or Flowers.

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:12 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:58 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:15 pm Usually the draft gives us clarity but now it’s even more muddled than before. Can we just go next to 2024
Love this kind of thinking. Smells like there is going to be some prime opportunity.
This is the best kind of year for guys like you who implicitly trust their own evaluations and don’t put too much stock into adp/draft positions and landing spots.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:14 am

Through three rounds:

5 QBs
7 RBs
14 WRs
9 TEs

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:15 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:12 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:58 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:15 pm Usually the draft gives us clarity but now it’s even more muddled than before. Can we just go next to 2024
Love this kind of thinking. Smells like there is going to be some prime opportunity.
This is the best kind of year for guys like you who implicitly trust their own evaluations and don’t put too much stock into adp/draft positions and landing spots.
Yep. There's great opportunity to steal talent with landing spot discounts.

We've seen things change very quickly.

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby hankmurphy » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:22 am

I could care less about the landing spot if this means I can get Charbonnet at 3.01. Keep the hate rolling!

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby Shcritters » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:37 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:12 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:49 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:43 pm

Oh no, not falling for the landing spot trap again.
Hand picked by Mahomes!
Your'e right.......1.01!
Mahomes as a QB? To the moon!

Mahomes on scouting players? Not so much.

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PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ

SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Caleb, Purdy, Levis, Penix
RB: Pacheco, Estime, Vaughn
WR: Nabers, Coleman, Downs, EMoore, Jeudy, Burton, MMims, MWilson
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Sinnott, Mayer
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths

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QB: Caleb, Richardson, Purdy, JJMcCarthy
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Nabers, Worthy, McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr, Pearsall, Mims, Burton, Mingo, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Bowers, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker
2025: 3 1sts, 2 2nds

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby chubnubbin » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:41 am

What happened to Boutte? Hell of a fall over the last year.

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:52 am

hankmurphy wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:22 am I could care less about the landing spot if this means I can get Charbonnet at 3.01. Keep the hate rolling!
I’m potentially higher on Charbonnet than pre draft, though I am worried about actual fantasy numbers. Seattle does a decent job finding talented rbs. And though I think it was a stupid pick in general, the logical angle is that Charbonnet was BPA by far. Like they might have had him as 1st round talent to take him in the 2nd as their 2nd rb. It speaks highly of his actual talent.

I went from being uncertain of him to trying to land him now that he is at a discounted value. .
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby abloom » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:00 am

ghetto pimp wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:41 am What happened to Boutte? Hell of a fall over the last year.
He doesn't care... Performed horribly at combine and instead of redeeming himself at proday he doubled down and said no thanks I'm good.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: 2023 Draft

Postby stoneghost28 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:02 am

Anteaters wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:56 am
Lumps wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:14 pmSay what you want about the value use of the picks, but Lions are adding some good players.
Detroit has made some very good player personnel moves the past couple years. They are building a team the right way and very methodically.

It will be interesting to see if those in charge can make the right moves necessary to step up to true contender status.
I suspect the Lions are going to become a legit NFC North contender going forward, the favorite to take the division for a while going forward but I also think its blatantly obvious they made a truly hideous, absolutely moronic decision to take Gibbs there. I don't think there's any denying that. With Swift under team control for another year, and Monty under control for years they had many, many, many far bigger needs and could've gone bpa for many of them, or traded down or out more. Gibbs was an idiotic luxury pick that was enormously wasteful. He'll be good, no doubt, at making their attack even better, but getting OL help, or defensive help, were far better usage of that draft capital. It was idiotic. They were really, really well positioned to spin some great team building moves over years to a roster that's already pretty good and rapidly improving, and they just really, really botched the value of the draft capital. It wasn't Raiders in round 1 or my WFT all draft so far level bad, but it wasn't good either.


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