2023 Draft

[Jigga94]

Rashee Rice to the moon

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Hating on Seattle for their pick is a very fantasy response.

We know the incredibly positive impact a quality RB has on the whole offense -- and QB rating -- when on the field. Now, Seattle won't have a massive drop-off (or as massive of one) when Walker is off the field. And if/when Walker misses some time, they can weather that.

From a fantasy perspective, it's pretty terrible. From a football perspective, it's actually a damn smart way to protect and offense and a QB.

I think it’s awful and has nothing to do with fantasy. I mean, we pretty much agree taking a rb in the first is sketchy. Taking your 2nd RB in the 2nd has to be even worse use of draft capital. Charb would have to be your BPA by multiple tiers to do this in the nfl to do this. Seattle is using draft capital to fill a hole that doesn’t need filling for a position that is one of the least important. There is no defending this.

[mild]

Much more of a blow to Charbonnet than Walker. About as bad as it gets really. He's more or less the new Alexander Mattison.

He could get 3rd down role.

I thought it was funny the initial comments were acting like Charb was starting.

Could easily see Charb getting the GL work too.

It's a big mess for fantasy, no matter which way you cut it.

[mild]

Rashee Rice to the moon

This is the sort of chaos that we late-round pick holders love to see.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Rashee Rice to the moon

We should have special teams covered between Skyy and Rice.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Rashee Rice to the moon

1.01

[Plank]

Dallas finally drafts a TE

[jcc6fd]

Rashee Rice to the moon

We should have special teams covered between Skyy and Rice.

I knew they were going WR when they moved up. Assumed with all the talk about Hyatt in KC they were thrilled to get him in the late second. Something must have happened in Hyatts draft process that is causing him to slide

[honcho55]

Charbs was my RB7 in this draft, predraft. I’m a Walker fan and have him in a couple spots.

I don’t think it’s a smart pick by Seattle. Yes, it’s nice to have, but that capital could’ve been better spent. On the other hand, I’m lower on this guy than consensus, seems Seattle is higher. So with that in mind, meh.

I don’t think this is a bad thing for Walker long term. Keep him fresh and healthy and hopefully continue to improve pass blocking and catching. Charbonnet (and literally a dozen or two RBs in this class…) are better pass catchers than Walker, and I always figured that in for projecting Walker.

Trying to place Charbonet in this rookie draft though, hmm. As I was already lower on him, and he’s stepping into a 1b, 3rd down role at best (no guarantee a rook secures this role), I’ll likely not end up with him. Could be a nice value pick though. Tony pollard, Alexander mattison kinda range.

[mild]

I knew they were going WR when they moved up. Assumed with all the talk about Hyatt in KC they were thrilled to get him in the late second. Something must have happened in Hyatts draft process that is causing him to slide

Not too hard to connect the dots.

Probably once teams dug in to how he wins and saw this.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Rashee Rice to the moon

We should have special teams covered between Skyy and Rice.

I knew they were going WR when they moved up. Assumed with all the talk about Hyatt in KC they were thrilled to get him in the late second. Something must have happened in Hyatts draft process that is causing him to slide

I don’t understand the need to trade up for a guy like him.

We have a little Raider fever with the last few wrs(Moore, Hardman, Rice) trying to grab them too soon

[Pullo Vision]

Hating on Seattle for their pick is a very fantasy response.

We know the incredibly positive impact a quality RB has on the whole offense -- and QB rating -- when on the field. Now, Seattle won't have a massive drop-off (or as massive of one) when Walker is off the field. And if/when Walker misses some time, they can weather that.

From a fantasy perspective, it's pretty terrible. From a football perspective, it's actually a damn smart way to protect and offense and a QB.

I think it’s awful and has nothing to do with fantasy. I mean, we pretty much agree taking a rb in the first is sketchy. Taking your 2nd RB in the 2nd has to be even worse use of draft capital. Charb would have to be your BPA by multiple tiers to do this in the nfl to do this. Seattle is using draft capital to fill a hole that doesn’t need filling for a position that is one of the least important. There is no defending this.

I know alot of people think this now but with NFL teams showing how they prioritize RBs in this draft, there may be elements not being considered.

Chris Collinsworth defended his idea of KC drafting Hendon Hooker at 31st in his mock by saying that losing the QB *in that offense* would be crippling. In the same way, you could argue a team built around the run game could not afford to lose its starting RB.

The defense did have holes, especially along the line, but one of the best friends of a defense is a solid run game.

[jcc6fd]

We should have special teams covered between Skyy and Rice.

I knew they were going WR when they moved up. Assumed with all the talk about Hyatt in KC they were thrilled to get him in the late second. Something must have happened in Hyatts draft process that is causing him to slide

I don’t understand the need to trade up for a guy like him.

We have a little Raider fever with the last few wrs(Moore, Hardman, Rice) trying to grab them too soon

Agreed. I don’t understand trading up for this guy. Both our picks have felt like reaches thus far

[Vendetta]

Ugh, horrible use of draft capital. We're as bad as the Patriots now. Love the player from a real life perspective and think it makes the offence dangerous as hell but hate that high of a selection on a luxury, it's Christine Michael 2.0.

[nathanq42]

Hating on Seattle for their pick is a very fantasy response.

We know the incredibly positive impact a quality RB has on the whole offense -- and QB rating -- when on the field. Now, Seattle won't have a massive drop-off (or as massive of one) when Walker is off the field. And if/when Walker misses some time, they can weather that.

From a fantasy perspective, it's pretty terrible. From a football perspective, it's actually a damn smart way to protect and offense and a QB.

I think it’s awful and has nothing to do with fantasy. I mean, we pretty much agree taking a rb in the first is sketchy. Taking your 2nd RB in the 2nd has to be even worse use of draft capital. Charb would have to be your BPA by multiple tiers to do this in the nfl to do this. Seattle is using draft capital to fill a hole that doesn’t need filling for a position that is one of the least important. There is no defending this.

I know alot of people think this now but with NFL teams showing how they prioritize RBs in this draft, there may be elements not being considered.

Chris Collinsworth defended his idea of KC drafting Hendon Hooker at 31st in his mock by saying that losing the QB *in that offense* would be crippling. In the same way, you could argue a team built around the run game could not afford to lose its starting RB.

The defense did have holes, especially along the line, but one of the best friends of a defense is a solid run game.

But a team would be silly to build around the run in today's NFL when you need to be able to put up 30+ every game to be competitive. Not to mention, I dont buy into the fact that the RB spot was an integral piece in the SEA offense to begin with. I loved their dradt up until this point. Geno proved he was worth riding with, they go him the best WR in the draft. The defense was awful last year, you have to be able to either rush/stop the QB by way of the Dline, or you need DBs that can lock up WRs long enough for the pocket to breakdown. They got the best CB in the draft and added to the Dline.

Now they go and throw a pick at the least valuable position in the NFL, with tonnes of supply of RB fodder in FA that can fill in just as well as Charb, if not better given rookie pass blocking ability vs seasoned pros. Not to mention you already have a starter at RB that did great last year as a second round rookie.

It could work out, but it would take a lot to make the pick worthwhile IMO