Trading Away Chase

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Trading Away Chase

Postby McCafsteez » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:19 pm

12 Team / SF / PPR (QB RB RB WR WR TE F F SF)

Roster:
QB: Allen, Cousins, Bridgewater
RB: Etienne, Swift, (that’s it)
WR: Jefferson, Chase, Higgins, Meyers, Lazard
TE: Hockenson, Waller
Picks: 2.03, 2.05, 2.11

Give: Chase
Get: AJ Brown+Kupp+Rodgers

Thoughts?
The Other Woman Dynasty League - 12 Team PPR (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex)
QB: Herbert, Lance, Stafford
RB: Bijan, Hall, Cook, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Adams, Hill, Hopkins, Robinson
TE: Waller, Engram
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You’re in this for Life - 12 Team 0.5 PPR
(QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, TE, 3 Flex)

QB: Fields, Young, Richardson, Smith
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, A. Jones
WR: Metcalf, JSN, Addison, Q. Johnston, Mingo, Rice
TE: Kincaid, Mayer, Gesicki
2024 Picks - (x3) 1sts
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Dynasty Addiction - 12 Team PPR /SF (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, SF)
QB: Lawrence, Fields
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Etienne, Walker
WR: AJ Brown, Godwin, Bateman
TE: Kittle

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby TheTroll » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:23 pm

Chase and JJ on the same roster? Wow. I would keep that duo
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby moishetreats » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:31 pm

I'm easily taking the package here. Easily.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:39 pm

Agreed so very easily the package for me.

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:48 pm

Tough to move Chase but you are adding two top 10 WRs here. Nice value.

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby Yarnith » Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:57 pm

I have to say if you are moving chase on that team you need a different package. You are a 2rb 2 flex league and are not addressing your need which is RB. Unless you have Rodgers lined up for a fat RB or early 1st to get a fat RB no.
Cavaliers 12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22

Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:01 pm

Yarnith wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:57 pm I have to say if you are moving chase on that team you need a different package. You are a 2rb 2 flex league and are not addressing your need which is RB. Unless you have Rodgers lined up for a fat RB or early 1st to get a fat RB no.
He can’t make other trades?

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby Yarnith » Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:23 pm

Mtt33 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:01 pm
Yarnith wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:57 pm I have to say if you are moving chase on that team you need a different package. You are a 2rb 2 flex league and are not addressing your need which is RB. Unless you have Rodgers lined up for a fat RB or early 1st to get a fat RB no.
He can’t make other trades?
He surely could and I mentioned doing just that. Normally if I am moving a keystone to my dynasty team I do it to put strength in a weakness not dilute my strength with aging vets.
Cavaliers 12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22

Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby Mtt33 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:27 am

Yarnith wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:23 pm
Mtt33 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:01 pm
Yarnith wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:57 pm I have to say if you are moving chase on that team you need a different package. You are a 2rb 2 flex league and are not addressing your need which is RB. Unless you have Rodgers lined up for a fat RB or early 1st to get a fat RB no.
He can’t make other trades?
He surely could and I mentioned doing just that. Normally if I am moving a keystone to my dynasty team I do it to put strength in a weakness not dilute my strength with aging vets.
25 year old aj brown aging vet!

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby Anteaters » Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:05 am

McCafsteez wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:19 pm 12 Team / SF / PPR (QB RB RB WR WR TE F F SF)

Roster:
QB: Allen, Cousins, Bridgewater
RB: Etienne, Swift, (that’s it)
WR: Jefferson, Chase, Higgins, Meyers, Lazard
TE: Hockenson, Waller
Picks: 2.03, 2.05, 2.11

Give: Chase
Get: AJ Brown+Kupp+Rodgers

Thoughts?
I don't love it. I don't like it a lot. I'm not if I would personally do it. But I like the effort and understand the reasoning.

Swapping Chase for AJB+Kupp gives you an WR1 level Flex, and it provides QB depth. If your team's health hold up all season, this could be a contender.

I'd feel more comfortable with the contender-assessment if you had more RB help, but have Kupp+Higgins as flexes evens that out. I'd view your roster as starting 3WR 1RB and a Flex RB in Swift. Looking at it that way diminishes the "oh my, not enough good RBs" reflex action.

But still, go get RBs with those seconds and hope one is good enough to provide your team with a little depth.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby mgregoirec » Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:50 am

Not a bad deal if you're in win-now mode, adding another quality flex. But I don't think this deal ages well in 2-3 years.
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QB : Jordan Love
RB : D'Andre Swift, Josh Jacobs, Gus Edwards, Ezekiel Elliott, Antonio Gibson
WR : Justin Jefferson, Ja’marr Chase, AJ Brown, Quentin Johnston, Jahan Dotson
TE : Mark Andrews
DL : Sam Hubbard
LB : Foye Oluokun, Micah Parsons
DB : Julian Love

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby McCafsteez » Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:20 am

I appreciate all of the feedback. I just traded away the 2.03 & 2.05 for DJ Moore. Does this change anything? My biggest concern is that Rodgers and Kupp fall of quickly and it’s essentially become AJB for Chase straight up…which clearly id prefer Chase.
The Other Woman Dynasty League - 12 Team PPR (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex)
QB: Herbert, Lance, Stafford
RB: Bijan, Hall, Cook, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Adams, Hill, Hopkins, Robinson
TE: Waller, Engram
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You’re in this for Life - 12 Team 0.5 PPR
(QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, TE, 3 Flex)

QB: Fields, Young, Richardson, Smith
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, A. Jones
WR: Metcalf, JSN, Addison, Q. Johnston, Mingo, Rice
TE: Kincaid, Mayer, Gesicki
2024 Picks - (x3) 1sts
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Dynasty Addiction - 12 Team PPR /SF (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, SF)
QB: Lawrence, Fields
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Etienne, Walker
WR: AJ Brown, Godwin, Bateman
TE: Kittle

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby Funr1de » Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:39 am

This is a win now move. Kupps value is in winning. He’s is not a real tradable asset. Same with Rogers.

By this time next year, kupp and Rogers may not be worth much at all.

Unless you are one player away from winning, I would hold Chase
Team 1 12 team Dynasty 1/2 PPR superflex TE premium 2021, 2022 champ

QB: Mahomes, Maye, Zach Wilson,
RB: Taylor, Swift, Gibbs, Mitchel, Dillon, Singletary, Bigsby, Tracey, J Williams,
WR: Higgins , DJ Moore, Pickins Dionte Johnson, Locket, Polk, Pearsoll, Bateman, Mooney, Metchie, Osborn, M Wilson
TE Andrew’s, Hock, Otten, J Sanders

Team 2 12 team Dynasty 1 PPR Superflex TE premium

QB: Herbert, Goff, Watson,
RB: Etienne, R white, Pacheco, Javonte Williams, Mattison, Kendre Miller, Roschon Johnson, Hubbard, Bigsby, Foreman, Mitchel, Guerendo
WR: J Jefferson, Deebo, T Higgins, Pittman, Evans, Sutton, Myers, D Johnson, Roman Wilson, Palmer,
TE: Hock, Knox, Irv Smith, Everett, Likely

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby moishetreats » Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:26 am

McCafsteez wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:20 am I appreciate all of the feedback. I just traded away the 2.03 & 2.05 for DJ Moore. Does this change anything? My biggest concern is that Rodgers and Kupp fall of quickly and it’s essentially become AJB for Chase straight up…which clearly id prefer Chase.
Here's how I look at it:

Combined, Kupp and AJB should have about the same number of top-end seasons as Chase. For a win-now team, the duo is better because you're simply consolidating those seasons into the next two years. For a rebuilding team, you want those top seasons stretched out over a longer period of time.

And, even if you think Chase is still ahead of the duo by a little bit, Rodgers coming back more than enough to fill it in.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Brooks ('27), Wright ('27), Guerendo ('26), Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), Nabers ('28), Worthy ('28), Polk ('28), Franklin ('28), E Moore ('25), M Thomas ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $201

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): Sinnott ('28), All ('28), Schrader ('26), A Reed ('28)

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Re: Trading Away Chase

Postby -THE DUDE- » Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:34 am

I’d personally keep chase here…only way I’m breaking up JJ/Chase is to strengthen other areas.
QB: A. Rodgers, Herbert, Purdy, Levis
RB: ETN, Bijan, Gibbs, Mostert, Dobbins, R. White
WR: AJB, Diggs, ARSB, G. Wilson, Kirk, E. Moore, Mingo, Wicks
TE: Fant, Njoku, Chiggy, I. Smith, Musgrave


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