Expected Haul for Bijan

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby MacDaddy123 » Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:54 pm

grooner wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:44 am In the league I was trying to get the 1.01, the 1.01 was traded, but not to me! It ended up going being:

Lamb+1.08
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1.01+Randale Moore

I personally have lamb > 1.01 and 1.08 >>> Moore so that was a great return for the 1.01 imo.

The 1.01 costs a lot lol.
That is a good haul for the 1.01, but mostly because of the 1.08 >>> Rondale Moore piece.
From what I have seen, CeeDee Lamb is about the closest straight up trade for the 1.01 in Full PPR leagues.
Some may value Lamb more, some may value Bijan more, but in startups right now, they are going extremely close to each other.

I have the 1.01 in three different leagues, and the only offer that I have received that I am even considering is 1.02, 1.06, and 2.04 for 1.01 in a 12 team SF TEP start 11 league, as I could use the depth.

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby frerichs5 » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:08 pm

12 team. 1 QB. PPR. Start 3 WR + 2 flexes

I sent the 1.01 for Garrett Wilson and a 2024 1st. May be slightly under what some here suggest, but I’m happy with it.

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Patsfan86 » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:42 pm

frerichs5 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:08 pm 12 team. 1 QB. PPR. Start 3 WR + 2 flexes

I sent the 1.01 for Garrett Wilson and a 2024 1st. May be slightly under what some here suggest, but I’m happy with it.
If that 24 first becomes Marvin in a 1 Qb Or Caleb in a superflex this trade becomes an absolute steal on your part. I wouldn’t trade Bijan for this but it’s not bad at all

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Bot101 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:05 am

frerichs5 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:08 pm 12 team. 1 QB. PPR. Start 3 WR + 2 flexes

I sent the 1.01 for Garrett Wilson and a 2024 1st. May be slightly under what some here suggest, but I’m happy with it.
Good deal. The fantasy community has gone overboard with Bijans value.

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby lic217 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:18 am

Bot101 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:05 am
frerichs5 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:08 pm 12 team. 1 QB. PPR. Start 3 WR + 2 flexes

I sent the 1.01 for Garrett Wilson and a 2024 1st. May be slightly under what some here suggest, but I’m happy with it.
Good deal. The fantasy community has gone overboard with Bijans value.
Agreed and he is only worth what the people in your league willing to send. His value is what people in your league will pay. Good young wide receiver in the future first sound like a good return for me

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Yarnith » Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:55 am

lic217 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:18 am
Bot101 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:05 am
frerichs5 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:08 pm 12 team. 1 QB. PPR. Start 3 WR + 2 flexes

I sent the 1.01 for Garrett Wilson and a 2024 1st. May be slightly under what some here suggest, but I’m happy with it.
Good deal. The fantasy community has gone overboard with Bijans value.
Agreed and he is only worth what the people in your league willing to send. His value is what people in your league will pay. Good young wide receiver in the future first sound like a good return for me
I will chime in that I too would call this a realistic fair trade. Like a toilet paper shortage though, it all comes off the wheels when people HAVE TO HAVE something and madness is made real.
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QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22

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QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:14 am

Yarnith wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:55 am
lic217 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:18 am
Bot101 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:05 am

Good deal. The fantasy community has gone overboard with Bijans value.
Agreed and he is only worth what the people in your league willing to send. His value is what people in your league will pay. Good young wide receiver in the future first sound like a good return for me
I will chime in that I too would call this a realistic fair trade. Like a toilet paper shortage though, it all comes off the wheels when people HAVE TO HAVE something and madness is made real.
It's a fair deal as of now. Really depends on how Bijan's rookie year goes. If he puts up 1600 plus total yards and double digit TD's, it may be a different story, but it also heavily depends on where the future first lies. I can see either side of this deal, but if you're rebuilding, getting 2 assets, one having shown out in the NFL already, isn't a bad move at all.
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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:36 pm

I'm all-in on Bijan, so fingers crossed. Moved multiple picks in a few leagues to get the 1.01. It feels pretty safe to me—floor is a good rb, ceiling is a generational talent IMO.
D3:
QB—Allen, JJM RB—Gibbs, Kamara, Jacobs, LLOYD, Zamir, Edwards, Ford, Warren, McLaughlin WR—MHJ, Lamb, Olave, DJM, Shaheed, RICE, VJefferson TE—Engram, Muth, Washington, Kraft, THEO PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK, CORLEY, COWING, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING, MWASHINGTON TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS, Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE, Goff, Cousins, PENIX RB: Bijan, BRob, Zamir, Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hull WR: HARRISON, DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, COWING, Reynolds TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Hurst, WILEY, Trautman, Tremble, Dissly, Reiman

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby jordanzs » Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:46 pm

What if Bijan ends up being a bust like Trent Richardson, or a player who has some blowup periods but underwhelms overall.....like Darren McFadden?

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:43 pm

jordanzs wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:46 pm What if Bijan ends up being a bust like Trent Richardson, or a player who has some blowup periods but underwhelms overall.....like Darren McFadden?
That's a risk many are willing to take.

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Yarnith » Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:00 pm

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:43 pm
jordanzs wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:46 pm What if Bijan ends up being a bust like Trent Richardson, or a player who has some blowup periods but underwhelms overall.....like Darren McFadden?
That's a risk many are willing to take.
JT had a hype like this and he was the man to have at RB and been a solid pick. If you took 1 year player AJ Brown(2019 rookie) and a mid to late 1st for the JT pick of 1.01 you would net

AJ Brown and one of Justin Jefferson, Tee Higgins, Ceedee Lamb or Dobbins.

Luck matters, draft skill matters and not being sucked into the hype around 1 player always matters the most.
Cavaliers 12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22

Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:35 pm

jordanzs wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:46 pm What if Bijan ends up being a bust like Trent Richardson, or a player who has some blowup periods but underwhelms overall.....like Darren McFadden?
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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby skinfanjon » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:49 pm

Yarnith wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:00 pm
YouMightDieTryin wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:43 pm
jordanzs wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:46 pm What if Bijan ends up being a bust like Trent Richardson, or a player who has some blowup periods but underwhelms overall.....like Darren McFadden?
That's a risk many are willing to take.
JT had a hype like this and he was the man to have at RB and been a solid pick. If you took 1 year player AJ Brown(2019 rookie) and a mid to late 1st for the JT pick of 1.01 you would net

AJ Brown and one of Justin Jefferson, Tee Higgins, Ceedee Lamb or Dobbins.

Luck matters, draft skill matters and not being sucked into the hype around 1 player always matters the most.
Understanding the strength of the draft classes you are analyzing matters, too. You can’t just saunter back to 2019, cherry pick the best WR from that class and throw in a 1st from an all-time class and go, “See???” Doesn’t work that way.

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Yarnith » Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:30 pm

skinfanjon wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:49 pm
Yarnith wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:00 pm
YouMightDieTryin wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:43 pm

That's a risk many are willing to take.
JT had a hype like this and he was the man to have at RB and been a solid pick. If you took 1 year player AJ Brown(2019 rookie) and a mid to late 1st for the JT pick of 1.01 you would net

AJ Brown and one of Justin Jefferson, Tee Higgins, Ceedee Lamb or Dobbins.

Luck matters, draft skill matters and not being sucked into the hype around 1 player always matters the most.
Understanding the strength of the draft classes you are analyzing matters, too. You can’t just saunter back to 2019, cherry pick the best WR from that class and throw in a 1st from an all-time class and go, “See???” Doesn’t work that way.
Its hard to use JT and not use that draft year I just used ADP from that year? I am comparing Garrett Wilson OROTY of last year to AJ Brown as a rookie(3rd OROTY) highest WR in that years voting and then players with an ADP of 1.05-1.10 the following year. Its not cherry picking its fully random. I could use Josh Jacobs over AJ Brown if you want? Lets play again 2021 OROTY Jamarr Chase? and ADP 2022 1.05-1.10 is 5. Garrett Wilson, Jameson Williams, Christian Watson, Chris Olave, Skyy Moore, George Pickens

It totally works this way so Garrett Wilson and pick 1.05-1.10 in a SF? Random ranking online says Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Jahmyr Gibbs, Will Levis, Zay Flowers, Jordan Addison, Zach Charbonnet. I am not saying I agree with this random ranking I grabbed but its a solid example. You can fail or you can hit as always. I figured you could look and see it doesn't really matter the class unless it is exceptionally bad or you get very unlucky.

Feel free to look at any year with a "generational" 1.01 player for fantasy then see if the OROTY (or best WR in that voting you pick) + 1.05-1.10 pans out better for the buyer of the 1.01 or the seller. I did 3 years. You could check out Saquan or Gurley or Elliot, I donno the answer and I dont feel like looking more than I have.
Cavaliers 12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22

Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby murphysxm » Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:16 am

JT was routinely not even the first RB drafted that year (CEH), Bijan doesn't have that risk
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