thebeast wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:20 am
Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:51 am
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:38 pm
I've seen nothing from Lamar Jackson that makes me think he can win a Super Bowl, paying him a big time contract will make it even more difficult. The Ravens big year, they were notorious for playing with the lead. They were built for it. Lamar isn't a QB who can play from behind consistently, he has not shown that ability. That's not being talked about, and yeah, receiving weapons, blah, blah. He had an upper echelon TE and a really good young player in Hollywood, I'm not going to pretend he had elite WR's, but when you're talking about the amount of guaranteed money he wants, he just hasn't shown the proclivity as a passer for a sample size worthy of what he is asking for.
Too much of his game is built around his running ability, which is a risk, due to any major knee, ankle injury etc. He's not particularly accurate, nor does he read the field all that well as a passer. He is able to create due to his athleticism, but really, he's never breached 4,000 yards, in a pass happy league with rules to allow marginal passing QB's compared to supposedly elite talents to do so, That is what NFL owners know, as do many fans. He's a fantastic talent, but his game, right now, does not lend well to a deep playoff run, or the aging process, or a major injury.
I think Lamar actually knows this too, which is why I don't blame him for trying to get as much as possible on this next deal. I don't think it's far fetched that he's where Cam Newton is, at Cam's age.
Nicely done FF. Captures the root of the issue perfectly.
While I’m sure a 26 year old former unanimous mvp is thinking that this is his one shot to get a big deal
opinions of whether Lamar can win a Super Bowl or not have nothing to do with the issue. The Ravens think they can win a Super Bowl with Lamar, if they didn’t they wouldn’t have offered him the massive deal that has been repeated throughout this thread.
The root of the issue is guaranteed contracts. Lamar wants one and the Ravens (and 28 other teams) don’t want to give one to him or to anyone. That’s the issue.
Except apparently he doesn't. (link below) He just wants more guaranteed money than Watson, not a guaranteed contract, and as I said, his game is way too predicated on rushing for an owner to do that. I know you've supposedly blocked me, but since you want to roundabout comment on my post, I'm responding. He's a former unanimous MVP who hasn't been close to that level since, and has had injury issues since then.
It's his one SURE shot at a big time deal. We can't predict what will happen 5 years down the road. When he's 31/32 nobody knows where he'll be. He might have another chance at a massive deal, but a lot can happen in 5 years, regardless of your little emoji. Anybody could have a career threatening injury, from kneck, to shoulder anything that hurts the mechanical process of throwing. Lamar's game being so predicated on his rushing ability, a multiple knee ligament tear could seriously affect his prime years as well.
The root of the issue is guaranteed
money in HIS contract. Owners aren't willing to do it, at least to this point, because of the reasons I've already stated. The Falcons owner basically stated that already, publicly, because I think a lot of people wanted to push the narrative for the Falcons to pursue him. Arthur Blank isn't a big mouthed owner. He's not usually in the limelight. He wanted to squash the media/fan narrative about Lamar to the Falcons, before it got out of hand, and he let people know his thoughts on why he wouldn't be pursuing him (at the current price).
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/lama ... un-watson/