16teams SF - value increase + DJs value

[ravn88]

Hello.

I have taken 2 orphans, both in 16 - Teams SF.

I have the 1.01 and DJ in both

DJ was 11 overall among QBs and 16 overall in both leagues. In both leagues there is a ppr that he benefits from.

What would you want in return for DJ and or 1.01.

[Gator Sens]

Daniel Jones seems like a 1st + a decent piece given the number of teams and the 1.01 is a name your price this year. Shop them both and see what your options are. Jones is tough to gauge manager to manager.

[halfbaked88]

I'm trying to turn that package into a QB. Probably shotgunning offers of DJ + 1.01 for Hurts, Burrow, Herbert. Maybe Lawrence depending how you feel about him.

Then moving on to the next tier of QBs Fields, Lamar, Watson and seeing if they'll add a 1st to it hoping they are enamored with Bijan.

Then basically just see if anyone accepts. If anyone counters attack that trade and try to secure an elite QB. I don't feel good about DJ long term at all.

[abloom]

16 team SF I'm expecting a top 5 rookie pick post NFL draft. Top 4 if Levis falls out of top 15.

Quite simply, QBs are just too valuable here. Only other way I'd move jones is in a package to trade up to another QB or to trade down to another QB.

1.01 I'd be looking to move down piece by piece. Probably first to the 1.02 pre-nfl draft, then to the 1.03/1.04 post NFL draft. I'm also going to make it expensive. Otherwise I'm happy just drafting my favorite QB at 1.01. since you have 2 1.01s I may even split my choices between the two leagues

[ravn88]

16 team SF I'm expecting a top 5 rookie pick post NFL draft. Top 4 if Levis falls out of top 15.

Quite simply, QBs are just too valuable here. Only other way I'd move jones is in a package to trade up to another QB or to trade down to another QB.

1.01 I'd be looking to move down piece by piece. Probably first to the 1.02 pre-nfl draft, then to the 1.03/1.04 post NFL draft. I'm also going to make it expensive. Otherwise I'm happy just drafting my favorite QB at 1.01. since you have 2 1.01s I may even split my choices between the two leagues

Are you saying that in a 16-team league, Bijan is not your 1.01.

[ravn88]

I'm trying to turn that package into a QB. Probably shotgunning offers of DJ + 1.01 for Hurts, Burrow, Herbert. Maybe Lawrence depending how you feel about him.

Then moving on to the next tier of QBs Fields, Lamar, Watson and seeing if they'll add a 1st to it hoping they are enamored with Bijan.

Then basically just see if anyone accepts. If anyone counters attack that trade and try to secure an elite QB. I don't feel good about DJ long term at all.

I have the same issue, but im affraid people wants to see a repeat season before touching him

[abloom]

16 team SF I'm expecting a top 5 rookie pick post NFL draft. Top 4 if Levis falls out of top 15.

Quite simply, QBs are just too valuable here. Only other way I'd move jones is in a package to trade up to another QB or to trade down to another QB.

1.01 I'd be looking to move down piece by piece. Probably first to the 1.02 pre-nfl draft, then to the 1.03/1.04 post NFL draft. I'm also going to make it expensive. Otherwise I'm happy just drafting my favorite QB at 1.01. since you have 2 1.01s I may even split my choices between the two leagues

Are you saying that in a 16-team league, Bijan is not your 1.01.

In a 16 team SF bijan is not my 1.01. he's my 1.03 behind Stroud and young. It comes down to career length and positional value for me. 12 team SF bijan is my 1.01, 14 team I think it's still bijan but it's close.

[Edgy68]

16 team SF I'm expecting a top 5 rookie pick post NFL draft. Top 4 if Levis falls out of top 15.

Quite simply, QBs are just too valuable here. Only other way I'd move jones is in a package to trade up to another QB or to trade down to another QB.

1.01 I'd be looking to move down piece by piece. Probably first to the 1.02 pre-nfl draft, then to the 1.03/1.04 post NFL draft. I'm also going to make it expensive. Otherwise I'm happy just drafting my favorite QB at 1.01. since you have 2 1.01s I may even split my choices between the two leagues

Are you saying that in a 16-team league, Bijan is not your 1.01.

In a 16 team SF bijan is not my 1.01. he's my 1.03 behind Stroud and young. It comes down to career length and positional value for me. 12 team SF bijan is my 1.01, 14 team I think it's still bijan but it's close.

Most definitely. There are 32 starting QBs, some not that good. Jones is close to that range. So if you believe Daboll has helped him turn a corner, I would have a hard time trading a borderline QB1 for fair value. That 1.01 should yield a solid QB prospect also, setting a rebuild up with two good young QBs.

[ravn88]

Are you saying that in a 16-team league, Bijan is not your 1.01.

In a 16 team SF bijan is not my 1.01. he's my 1.03 behind Stroud and young. It comes down to career length and positional value for me. 12 team SF bijan is my 1.01, 14 team I think it's still bijan but it's close.

Most definitely. There are 32 starting QBs, some not that good. Jones is close to that range. So if you believe Daboll has helped him turn a corner, I would have a hard time trading a borderline QB1 for fair value. That 1.01 should yield a solid QB prospect also, setting a rebuild up with two good young QBs.

Okey, then I should be happy, that I still have the 1.01 in both leagues.

[Anteaters]

1.01 I'd be looking to move down piece by piece. Probably first to the 1.02 pre-nfl draft, then to the 1.03/1.04 post NFL draft. I'm also going to make it expensive.

I love this idea.

Go to 1.03/04/05 and see if any of them want to trade up by giving you their pick+startable player+2nd. Even better if someone has two firsts like 1.04+1.10.

Then do it again. Say you get the 1.04 in the first deal. Trade the 1.04 for the 1.08+Hock(if TEP) or 1.12+Mac(or similar QB). Of course, it might be a little tricky figuring out the trade temperature in a new league.

But if it works, maybe you come out with 1.09+Mac+Diontae+Hock. Anything that provides a useful QB and some +s is a great return for the 1.01 in this league, IMO.

[abloom]

1.01 I'd be looking to move down piece by piece. Probably first to the 1.02 pre-nfl draft, then to the 1.03/1.04 post NFL draft. I'm also going to make it expensive.

I love this idea.

Go to 1.03/04/05 and see if any of them want to trade up by giving you their pick+startable player+2nd. Even better if someone has two firsts like 1.04+1.10.

Then do it again. Say you get the 1.04 in the first deal. Trade the 1.04 for the 1.08+Hock(if TEP) or 1.12+Mac(or similar QB). Of course, it might be a little tricky figuring out the trade temperature in a new league.

But if it works, maybe you come out with 1.09+Mac+Diontae+Hock. Anything that provides a useful QB and some +s is a great return for the 1.01 in this league, IMO.

Yeah to expand on what specifically I'm thinking:
In a 16 team SF I want to get QBs. So pre-nfl draft I have young and stroud as players I know I want to acquire.

So 1.01 vs 1.02 Im sure I will have a preference, but I'm also sure that I would be happy with either one, so if I can trade down from 1.01 to 1.02 and pick up a nice piece to do that pre-nfl draft I'd do that.

Then I'll use the NFL draft to determine how far down I want to trade in the rookie draft. As I mentioned right now bijan would be my 1.03 but that's only because I'm not 100% positive (though fairly certain) that Richardson and Levis will be drafted in the top 15 (preferably 10) picks.

If both are in top 10, my first four picks in a 16 team SF would be QBs.

So post NFL draft I'm willing to move down from 1.02 to 1.04. again can probably get something significant here.

Finally during rookie draft, if all of the above holds and bijan gets drafted in the first 4 picks, I'd move back to 1.05 and take the last QB.

This all changes if AR or Levis aren't drafted early 1st. But that's why I'd make the moves piecemeal opposed to just trying to make one move from 1.01 to 1.05.