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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Orenthal Shames » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:09 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:38 pm
Elite Package wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:46 pm 2022 champ so I have 1.12 pick...

1.01 owner sent me offer of:

1.01, MVS, P.Cambell (I know two throw aways)

I give:
1.12
2025 1st
2026 1st
Javonte Williams
Rashad Bateman

Little too rich IMO but thought I would post here for possible input...team one in sig.
I would give the three 1sts without hesitation. It's really hinging on how much you value Javonte/Bateman. Also depends on how DEEP you are. I don't own shares of either. Can you spare them? If you're the champ, Bijan wow...worth getting? IDK.
Agree. League champ and then add Bijan? Smash accept. Those firsts are a long way away and I'm of the opinion that Javonte isn't right in 2023.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Elite Package » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:54 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:38 pm
I would give the three 1sts without hesitation. It's really hinging on how much you value Javonte/Bateman. Also depends on how DEEP you are. I don't own shares of either. Can you spare them? If you're the champ, Bijan wow...worth getting? IDK.
It's for "Team One" in my signature, but incase it isn't showing up... Start 2rb, 3wr, 1flex

RB: S.Barkley, J.Mixon, J.Williams, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, R.Bateman, V.Jefferson
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: P.Mahomes, T.Lance, J.Garoppolo
RB: B.Robinson (1.01 Incoming), S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, V.Jefferson
TE: G.Kittle, D.Njoku, C.Kmet, G.Everett, T.Hill
K: J.Tucker
DL: J.Bosa, A.Donald, D.Buckner, J.Allen, K.Payne
LB: R.Smith, F.Warner, C.Barton, Q.Walker, H.Reddick
DB: J.Poyer, J.Bates, T.Mathieu

TEAM TWO
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: L.Jackson, D.Watson
RB: C.McCaffrey, S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Elliot
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, K.Allen, B.Aiyuk, K.Shakir
TE: T.Kelce, OJ.Howard, M.Gesicki, L.Thomas
K: J.Tucker
DL: G.Rousseau, M.Judon, Q.Williams, J.Allen, J.Oweh
LB: B.Wagner, F.Warner, CJ.Mosley, M.Jack
DB: A.Winfield, T.Hufanga, Q.Diggs, J.Bates

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:33 pm

Elite Package wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:54 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:38 pm
I would give the three 1sts without hesitation. It's really hinging on how much you value Javonte/Bateman. Also depends on how DEEP you are. I don't own shares of either. Can you spare them? If you're the champ, Bijan wow...worth getting? IDK.
It's for "Team One" in my signature, but incase it isn't showing up... Start 2rb, 3wr, 1flex

RB: S.Barkley, J.Mixon, J.Williams, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, R.Bateman, V.Jefferson
I think I'd take the offer. Maybe counter with the three firsts and just Bateman see if he bites? Or if it's just sitting there, IDK, I probably take it. You still have WW and 2nd round picks in the future. I hesitated on moving up for a 3.01 when I should have smashed accept and it ended up costing me a my 2.01 with a 3.02 coming back. I screwed up. I'd probably take it.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Elite Package » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:43 pm

I just discussed with him swapping the MVS for his 3rd. Not a huge difference but small movement.
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: P.Mahomes, T.Lance, J.Garoppolo
RB: B.Robinson (1.01 Incoming), S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, V.Jefferson
TE: G.Kittle, D.Njoku, C.Kmet, G.Everett, T.Hill
K: J.Tucker
DL: J.Bosa, A.Donald, D.Buckner, J.Allen, K.Payne
LB: R.Smith, F.Warner, C.Barton, Q.Walker, H.Reddick
DB: J.Poyer, J.Bates, T.Mathieu

TEAM TWO
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: L.Jackson, D.Watson
RB: C.McCaffrey, S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Elliot
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, K.Allen, B.Aiyuk, K.Shakir
TE: T.Kelce, OJ.Howard, M.Gesicki, L.Thomas
K: J.Tucker
DL: G.Rousseau, M.Judon, Q.Williams, J.Allen, J.Oweh
LB: B.Wagner, F.Warner, CJ.Mosley, M.Jack
DB: A.Winfield, T.Hufanga, Q.Diggs, J.Bates

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby esloan35 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:56 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:38 pm
Elite Package wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:46 pm 2022 champ so I have 1.12 pick...

1.01 owner sent me offer of:

1.01, MVS, P.Cambell (I know two throw aways)

I give:
1.12
2025 1st
2026 1st
Javonte Williams
Rashad Bateman

Little too rich IMO but thought I would post here for possible input...team one in sig.
I would give the three 1sts without hesitation. It's really hinging on how much you value Javonte/Bateman. Also depends on how DEEP you are. I don't own shares of either. Can you spare them? If you're the champ, Bijan wow...worth getting? IDK.
It's on credit too.. 2025 and 2026, and Mims or Tucker. Jwill has a knee that is mush... I dunno, I would keep Bijan.

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Elite Package » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:35 am

I would be the side getting 1.01…sounds like I should just accept huh? I guess I am assigning too much value to Williams.
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: P.Mahomes, T.Lance, J.Garoppolo
RB: B.Robinson (1.01 Incoming), S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, V.Jefferson
TE: G.Kittle, D.Njoku, C.Kmet, G.Everett, T.Hill
K: J.Tucker
DL: J.Bosa, A.Donald, D.Buckner, J.Allen, K.Payne
LB: R.Smith, F.Warner, C.Barton, Q.Walker, H.Reddick
DB: J.Poyer, J.Bates, T.Mathieu

TEAM TWO
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: L.Jackson, D.Watson
RB: C.McCaffrey, S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Elliot
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, K.Allen, B.Aiyuk, K.Shakir
TE: T.Kelce, OJ.Howard, M.Gesicki, L.Thomas
K: J.Tucker
DL: G.Rousseau, M.Judon, Q.Williams, J.Allen, J.Oweh
LB: B.Wagner, F.Warner, CJ.Mosley, M.Jack
DB: A.Winfield, T.Hufanga, Q.Diggs, J.Bates

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:43 am

Elite Package wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:35 am I would be the side getting 1.01…sounds like I should just accept huh? I guess I am assigning too much value to Williams.
You can probably negotiate a bit if it was a cold offer to you

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Elite Package » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:03 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:43 am You can probably negotiate a bit if it was a cold offer to you
Current offer is…

Get
2023 1.01
2024 Early 3rd
Parris Campbell

Give
Javonte Williams
Rashad Bateman
2023 1.12
2025 1st
2026 1st
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: P.Mahomes, T.Lance, J.Garoppolo
RB: B.Robinson (1.01 Incoming), S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, V.Jefferson
TE: G.Kittle, D.Njoku, C.Kmet, G.Everett, T.Hill
K: J.Tucker
DL: J.Bosa, A.Donald, D.Buckner, J.Allen, K.Payne
LB: R.Smith, F.Warner, C.Barton, Q.Walker, H.Reddick
DB: J.Poyer, J.Bates, T.Mathieu

TEAM TWO
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: L.Jackson, D.Watson
RB: C.McCaffrey, S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Elliot
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, K.Allen, B.Aiyuk, K.Shakir
TE: T.Kelce, OJ.Howard, M.Gesicki, L.Thomas
K: J.Tucker
DL: G.Rousseau, M.Judon, Q.Williams, J.Allen, J.Oweh
LB: B.Wagner, F.Warner, CJ.Mosley, M.Jack
DB: A.Winfield, T.Hufanga, Q.Diggs, J.Bates

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby esloan35 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:08 am

Elite Package wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:03 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:43 am You can probably negotiate a bit if it was a cold offer to you
Current offer is…

Get
2023 1.01
2024 Early 3rd
Parris Campbell

Give
Javonte Williams
Rashad Bateman
2023 1.12
2025 1st
2026 1st
Doooooo iitttt!

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Lumps » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:19 am

Elite Package wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:03 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:43 am You can probably negotiate a bit if it was a cold offer to you
Current offer is…

Get
2023 1.01
2024 Early 3rd
Parris Campbell

Give
Javonte Williams
Rashad Bateman
2023 1.12
2025 1st
2026 1st
I agreed with everyone so far initially, but I just one to point out some things:
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: P.Mahomes, T.Lance, J.Garoppolo
RB: S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, V.Jefferson
TE: G.Kittle, D.Njoku, C.Kmet, G.Everett, T.Hill
K: J.Tucker
DL: J.Bosa, A.Donald, D.Buckner, J.Allen, K.Payne
LB: R.Smith, F.Warner, C.Barton, Q.Walker, H.Reddick
DB: J.Poyer, J.BatesIII, T.Mathieu
I removed Williams and Bateman from your roster due to the trade. Williams probably isn't helping you this year, but I guess there is still the hope that maybe later or by next year he could be something. I have my doubts, but... just saying.

I bolded the players that could really start declining or Penny as the perpetual injury risk. Your team could be hurting in the 2024 season at WR. 1 Injury of Barkley or Bijan and your RB room is a mess.

You have solid IDPs so no concern here. I just wanted to point out that "league champ" (which is always difficult to pull off rather than say finishing 9 or 10) picks may not be league champ picks in the future. Is it still a good trade? Possibly. I would be trying to buy some young WRs and get some more RBs.

Only you know your league and how talent is dispersed. If you are the clear cut projected winner or have only 1 rival then I think it's better. Just one arm chair manager's thoughts.
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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Elite Package » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:36 am

Yeah, I’m not as deep as I’d like to be but this league is pretty trade active so I think I can address that. Only one other serious competitor and he would definitely do this trade so don’t want bijan going to him either.
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: P.Mahomes, T.Lance, J.Garoppolo
RB: B.Robinson (1.01 Incoming), S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, V.Jefferson
TE: G.Kittle, D.Njoku, C.Kmet, G.Everett, T.Hill
K: J.Tucker
DL: J.Bosa, A.Donald, D.Buckner, J.Allen, K.Payne
LB: R.Smith, F.Warner, C.Barton, Q.Walker, H.Reddick
DB: J.Poyer, J.Bates, T.Mathieu

TEAM TWO
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: L.Jackson, D.Watson
RB: C.McCaffrey, S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Elliot
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, K.Allen, B.Aiyuk, K.Shakir
TE: T.Kelce, OJ.Howard, M.Gesicki, L.Thomas
K: J.Tucker
DL: G.Rousseau, M.Judon, Q.Williams, J.Allen, J.Oweh
LB: B.Wagner, F.Warner, CJ.Mosley, M.Jack
DB: A.Winfield, T.Hufanga, Q.Diggs, J.Bates

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Elite Package » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:20 am

Pulled the trigger, guess I’m the first confirmed case study in this thread? I’m sure I overpaid but with my picks being late 1sts (hopefully) I don’t think there was any other way.

Gave:
Javonte Williams
Rashad Bateman
2023 1,12
2025 1st
2026 1st

Received:
2023 1.01
2024 Early 3rd (Most Likely)
Parris Campbell
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: P.Mahomes, T.Lance, J.Garoppolo
RB: B.Robinson (1.01 Incoming), S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, V.Jefferson
TE: G.Kittle, D.Njoku, C.Kmet, G.Everett, T.Hill
K: J.Tucker
DL: J.Bosa, A.Donald, D.Buckner, J.Allen, K.Payne
LB: R.Smith, F.Warner, C.Barton, Q.Walker, H.Reddick
DB: J.Poyer, J.Bates, T.Mathieu

TEAM TWO
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: L.Jackson, D.Watson
RB: C.McCaffrey, S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Elliot
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, K.Allen, B.Aiyuk, K.Shakir
TE: T.Kelce, OJ.Howard, M.Gesicki, L.Thomas
K: J.Tucker
DL: G.Rousseau, M.Judon, Q.Williams, J.Allen, J.Oweh
LB: B.Wagner, F.Warner, CJ.Mosley, M.Jack
DB: A.Winfield, T.Hufanga, Q.Diggs, J.Bates

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby dynastyninja » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:59 am

Elite Package wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:20 am Pulled the trigger, guess I’m the first confirmed case study in this thread? I’m sure I overpaid but with my picks being late 1sts (hopefully) I don’t think there was any other way.

Gave:
Javonte Williams
Rashad Bateman
2023 1,12
2025 1st
2026 1st

Received:
2023 1.01
2024 Early 3rd (Most Likely)
Parris Campbell
Wow that's hefty, more than I would've paid, but if Bijan is RB1 next year probably worth it.

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Cameron Giles » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:05 am

Elite Package wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:20 am Pulled the trigger, guess I’m the first confirmed case study in this thread? I’m sure I overpaid but with my picks being late 1sts (hopefully) I don’t think there was any other way.

Gave:
Javonte Williams
Rashad Bateman
2023 1,12
2025 1st
2026 1st

Received:
2023 1.01
2024 Early 3rd (Most Likely)
Parris Campbell
Seems like a cheap deal to me. A 2025 and 2026 1st today aren't worth much. Williams has multi-ligament tears, Bateman is a solid piece, and a late 1st this year.

And you get a player who could anchor you to championships for the next 4 years. Sure, who knows where those 2025 and 26 picks will land, but there's so much time in between then that you could easily acquire another 1st to make up for it.

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Re: Expected Haul for Bijan

Postby Elite Package » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:53 am

Thanks everyone for the input, now just need to pray for a good landing spot for him. Excited for my 1-2 punch of Bijan/Barkley next year. :)
TEAM ONE
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: P.Mahomes, T.Lance, J.Garoppolo
RB: B.Robinson (1.01 Incoming), S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Mitchell, R.Penny
WR: C.Godwin, K.Allen, A.Cooper, DJ.Moore, V.Jefferson
TE: G.Kittle, D.Njoku, C.Kmet, G.Everett, T.Hill
K: J.Tucker
DL: J.Bosa, A.Donald, D.Buckner, J.Allen, K.Payne
LB: R.Smith, F.Warner, C.Barton, Q.Walker, H.Reddick
DB: J.Poyer, J.Bates, T.Mathieu

TEAM TWO
12 Team PPR, (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: L.Jackson, D.Watson
RB: C.McCaffrey, S.Barkley, J.Mixon, E.Elliot
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, K.Allen, B.Aiyuk, K.Shakir
TE: T.Kelce, OJ.Howard, M.Gesicki, L.Thomas
K: J.Tucker
DL: G.Rousseau, M.Judon, Q.Williams, J.Allen, J.Oweh
LB: B.Wagner, F.Warner, CJ.Mosley, M.Jack
DB: A.Winfield, T.Hufanga, Q.Diggs, J.Bates


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