2023 Rookie QB rankings

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:13 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:58 pm
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:32 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:09 pm

More of a tier break kind of thing for me, not dropping them off the board. Though I get not worrying about it as much with the more polished QB like Young/Stroud. Richardson it probably matters more
Yeah exactly. I have the 1.06 as well and if somehow Stroud in Houston falls to me at 1.06 I’m back to being excited about the value.
I have 1.07 in Superflex, curious to see who falls:

Bijan
Young
Stroud
Gibbs
Richardson
JSN

could be Levis, Addison, Johnston, etc. OR JSN and/or Richardson IDK.

At this time I’d predict you end up with JSN. Maybe Levis slides, especially if he goes somewhere crappy. But most likely you get JSN. Pretty good result. I’d be fine with either at 1.07.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

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12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:22 pm

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:13 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:58 pm
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:32 pm

Yeah exactly. I have the 1.06 as well and if somehow Stroud in Houston falls to me at 1.06 I’m back to being excited about the value.
I have 1.07 in Superflex, curious to see who falls:

Bijan
Young
Stroud
Gibbs
Richardson
JSN

could be Levis, Addison, Johnston, etc. OR JSN and/or Richardson IDK.

At this time I’d predict you end up with JSN. Maybe Levis slides, especially if he goes somewhere crappy. But most likely you get JSN. Pretty good result. I’d be fine with either at 1.07.
Thanks. Agree.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby grandmabetty » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:58 pm

I have 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.10

Really hoping one of the perceived top 4 of young, stroud, Gibbs falls to me at 1.05.

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

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grandmabetty wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:58 pm I have 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.10

Really hoping one of the perceived top 4 of young, stroud, Gibbs falls to me at 1.05.
I hate to tell you this, but I honestly think it'll be Bijan, Young, Stroud, Gibbs. But if one falls, take them. I had the 1.05 in a Superflex and used that to move up to the 1.01. Start thinking about Richardson, Levis, and/or JSN. Or move up.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby grandmabetty » Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:11 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:00 pm
grandmabetty wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:58 pm I have 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.10

Really hoping one of the perceived top 4 of young, stroud, Gibbs falls to me at 1.05.
I hate to tell you this, but I honestly think it'll be Bijan, Young, Stroud, Gibbs. But if one falls, take them. I had the 1.05 in a Superflex and used that to move up to the 1.01. Start thinking about Richardson, Levis, and/or JSN. Or move up.
I know. A lot can change between now and then but I agree it will probably go down like this. Oh well, I am a fan of JSN and I guess I'll take a flyer on AR and whoever else I select. Probably addison and Charbonnet

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:43 am

grandmabetty wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:58 pm I have 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.10

Really hoping one of the perceived top 4 of young, stroud, Gibbs falls to me at 1.05.
Personally, I would take any of those 4 or Richardson there. JSN isn't a bad option either. It's after those guys that I am not sure yet.

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:54 am

grandmabetty wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:58 pm I have 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.10

Really hoping one of the perceived top 4 of young, stroud, Gibbs falls to me at 1.05.
What's nice is having three in a row. So you can take all positions here. I'd probably go:

JSN
Richardson
Addison/Levis/Johnston/Charbonnet

Obviously if Gibbs falls you take him.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby grandmabetty » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:51 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:54 am
grandmabetty wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:58 pm I have 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.10

Really hoping one of the perceived top 4 of young, stroud, Gibbs falls to me at 1.05.
What's nice is having three in a row. So you can take all positions here. I'd probably go:

JSN
Richardson
Addison/Levis/Johnston/Charbonnet

Obviously if Gibbs falls you take him.
thats my thinking too

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby Servo » Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:22 am

If all 4 of these QB's go int the Top-10, which appears like that has legs...then I think all four "should" go within the first 7-8 picks of 2QB/SF leagues.

1. Bijan
2-3. Richardson/Stroud
4. Young
5-6-7. Gibbs/JSN/Levis

My guess would be that Levis slips in drafts or maybe people are afraid to pull the trigger on Richardson that early (at least today).

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby Paul717 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:58 pm

I'm sorry to bump this thread...but are there any other interesting QBs in this class after "The Big 4" discussed in this thread?

Dorian Thompson-Robinson's college stats sort of jumped off the page for me when I looked him up. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... son-1.html

Are his numbers inflated because of the system he played in?

I guess my main question is: What don't folks like about his profile and / or chances at the next level?
"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 :cry: , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions

Picks:
2024: 1.06, 2.06, 4.06, 5.06, 6.06, 7.06, 8.06

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:14 pm

Paul717 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:58 pm I'm sorry to bump this thread...but are there any other interesting QBs in this class after "The Big 4" discussed in this thread?

Dorian Thompson-Robinson's college stats sort of jumped off the page for me when I looked him up. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... son-1.html

Are his numbers inflated because of the system he played in?

I guess my main question is: What don't folks like about his profile and / or chances at the next level?
He looked pretty poor in the passing drills at the combine.

I think Hooker might be worth a late-round flier. Obviously a lot of hurdles to clear, but he looked fantastic before his injury.

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby Lumps » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:16 pm

PFF Renner likes McKee from Stanford. He appears to be an outlier on that..... at least until the draft.
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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:38 pm

Lumps wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:16 pm PFF Renner likes McKee from Stanford. He appears to be an outlier on that..... at least until the draft.
Hooker and McKee are the 2 names I keep seeing outside the big 4.

I haven't watched nearly enough of the other QB that will likely never be fantasy relevant, but tops of my list are Tune, DTR, Haener and Bagent. Cunningham and Duggan are likely behind them. Draft capital will help a lot with this though.

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby Paul717 » Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:14 am

Jigga94 wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:38 pm
Lumps wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:16 pm PFF Renner likes McKee from Stanford. He appears to be an outlier on that..... at least until the draft.
Hooker and McKee are the 2 names I keep seeing outside the big 4.

I haven't watched nearly enough of the other QB that will likely never be fantasy relevant, but tops of my list are Tune, DTR, Haener and Bagent. Cunningham and Duggan are likely behind them. Draft capital will help a lot with this though.
Appreciate all these extra names. Agreed, we don't know whether to care about some of them until we know if / where they are drafted!

I remember watching Tennessee vs. Florida and thinking both QBs looked like NFL caliber prospects. I'm rooting for both of them to be drafted early-ish.
"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 :cry: , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions

Picks:
2024: 1.06, 2.06, 4.06, 5.06, 6.06, 7.06, 8.06

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Re: 2023 Rookie QB rankings

Postby Servo » Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:38 am

If Hooker gets Day 2 draft capital, then I think he's a decent dart throw in the 3rd RD of SF/2QB drafts.

Tyson Bagent, DII player, could be a stretch but he threw for a million yards + TD's.


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