Cost to go from 1.02 to 1.01?

[MacDaddy123]

1.02 + 1.04 should get you the 1.01, and maybe a 2nd rounder back in return

Never hurts to ask. The question is really this—

Do you want Bijan or Gibbs/QB/WR? Personally, I'd probably be okay with Gibbs/QB or Gibbs/JSN. But that's me.

Well for me, 1.02 and 1.03 are QB picks. I have even seen 1.02-1.05 all be QB picks in rookie SF rookie drafts.
While Gibbs and/or JSN could come into play at 1.04, hard to see either going earlier than that in SF.
That doesn't mean they won't, as people reach in just about every draft.

That said, yes, I would trade the 1.01 for the 1.02 and the 1.04, and if I was trading 1.02 and the 1.04 for the 1.01, I would want a little something back on top, like I said, a 2nd round pick or player of similar value.

So the question really is would you rather have your choice of QB + (Gibbs OR JSN), OR Bijan + (Boutte OR Evans OR Tucker OR Downs)?

For me it is the Bijan side there, as I see him more of a can't miss prospect than either QB, Gibbs or JSN.
Bijan is in a tier all by himself, IMO.

[wickerkat1212]

1.02 + 1.04 should get you the 1.01, and maybe a 2nd rounder back in return

Never hurts to ask. The question is really this—

Do you want Bijan or Gibbs/QB/WR? Personally, I'd probably be okay with Gibbs/QB or Gibbs/JSN. But that's me.

Well for me, 1.02 and 1.03 are QB picks. I have even seen 1.02-1.05 all be QB picks in rookie SF rookie drafts.
While Gibbs and/or JSN could come into play at 1.04, hard to see either going earlier than that in SF.
That doesn't mean they won't, as people reach in just about every draft.

That said, yes, I would trade the 1.01 for the 1.02 and the 1.04, and if I was trading 1.02 and the 1.04 for the 1.01, I would want a little something back on top, like I said, a 2nd round pick or player of similar value.

So the question really is would you rather have your choice of QB + (Gibbs OR JSN), OR Bijan + (Boutte OR Evans OR Tucker OR Downs)?

For me it is the Bijan side there, as I see him more of a can't miss prospect than either QB, Gibbs or JSN.
Bijan is in a tier all by himself, IMO.

Right, but not everyone needs a QB at 2/3. Obviously this guy with the 1.01 does, and if he doesn't take one there, he MAY get the 2nd best QB at 1.03. It's tricky. The guy with the 1/3 may go Young/Gibbs and 2/4 can go Bijan/QB-WR. With Watson, Tua, and Jimmy he doesn't HAVE to go QB there but he certainly can. Depends on how much he values the QBs and who is there with his pick.

If it was ME with the 1/3 I'd go Bijan/QB. I like Bijan over everyone else. But that's me.The OP has 2/4 and needs a RB so I'd still try to trade to get 1.01/Bijan but if it's ridiculous just take Gibbs/QB-WR at 4. Probably QB since there are question marks with Watson, Tua, and Jimmy. All three could start and play well, all three could go away pretty quickly. Depends on how you feel about Young/Stroud.

[bigbuck22]

Never hurts to ask. The question is really this—

Do you want Bijan or Gibbs/QB/WR? Personally, I'd probably be okay with Gibbs/QB or Gibbs/JSN. But that's me.

Well for me, 1.02 and 1.03 are QB picks. I have even seen 1.02-1.05 all be QB picks in rookie SF rookie drafts.
While Gibbs and/or JSN could come into play at 1.04, hard to see either going earlier than that in SF.
That doesn't mean they won't, as people reach in just about every draft.

That said, yes, I would trade the 1.01 for the 1.02 and the 1.04, and if I was trading 1.02 and the 1.04 for the 1.01, I would want a little something back on top, like I said, a 2nd round pick or player of similar value.

So the question really is would you rather have your choice of QB + (Gibbs OR JSN), OR Bijan + (Boutte OR Evans OR Tucker OR Downs)?

For me it is the Bijan side there, as I see him more of a can't miss prospect than either QB, Gibbs or JSN.
Bijan is in a tier all by himself, IMO.

Right, but not everyone needs a QB at 2/3. Obviously this guy with the 1.01 does, and if he doesn't take one there, he MAY get the 2nd best QB at 1.03. It's tricky. The guy with the 1/3 may go Young/Gibbs and 2/4 can go Bijan/QB-WR. With Watson, Tua, and Jimmy he doesn't HAVE to go QB there but he certainly can. Depends on how much he values the QBs and who is there with his pick.

If it was ME with the 1/3 I'd go Bijan/QB. I like Bijan over everyone else. But that's me.The OP has 2/4 and needs a RB so I'd still try to trade to get 1.01/Bijan but if it's ridiculous just take Gibbs/QB-WR at 4. Probably QB since there are question marks with Watson, Tua, and Jimmy. All three could start and play well, all three could go away pretty quickly. Depends on how you feel about Young/Stroud.

The 1.01 team is an orphan team that hasn't been filled yet so I'm waiting to jump on the new manager as soon as a new name appears. That team is really poor minus a couple of assets and the incoming picks. Drafting and holding RBs at this point doesn't make sense for that squad, imo, but who knows.

I'm in on either QB and Gibbs at 2 and 4 if nothing materializes. I've also considered trying something like this... calculators say it's an overpay but who knows what real ppl will feel. I would think the new manager would be interested in additional assets and some good ones at that.

1.01, 1.03, 1.10, BHall
For
1.02, 1.04, Tua, Metcalf, 2.07, 2.09

Anybody care to sort that offer out for me?

[Jigga94]

Well for me, 1.02 and 1.03 are QB picks. I have even seen 1.02-1.05 all be QB picks in rookie SF rookie drafts.
While Gibbs and/or JSN could come into play at 1.04, hard to see either going earlier than that in SF.
That doesn't mean they won't, as people reach in just about every draft.

That said, yes, I would trade the 1.01 for the 1.02 and the 1.04, and if I was trading 1.02 and the 1.04 for the 1.01, I would want a little something back on top, like I said, a 2nd round pick or player of similar value.

So the question really is would you rather have your choice of QB + (Gibbs OR JSN), OR Bijan + (Boutte OR Evans OR Tucker OR Downs)?

For me it is the Bijan side there, as I see him more of a can't miss prospect than either QB, Gibbs or JSN.
Bijan is in a tier all by himself, IMO.

Right, but not everyone needs a QB at 2/3. Obviously this guy with the 1.01 does, and if he doesn't take one there, he MAY get the 2nd best QB at 1.03. It's tricky. The guy with the 1/3 may go Young/Gibbs and 2/4 can go Bijan/QB-WR. With Watson, Tua, and Jimmy he doesn't HAVE to go QB there but he certainly can. Depends on how much he values the QBs and who is there with his pick.

If it was ME with the 1/3 I'd go Bijan/QB. I like Bijan over everyone else. But that's me.The OP has 2/4 and needs a RB so I'd still try to trade to get 1.01/Bijan but if it's ridiculous just take Gibbs/QB-WR at 4. Probably QB since there are question marks with Watson, Tua, and Jimmy. All three could start and play well, all three could go away pretty quickly. Depends on how you feel about Young/Stroud.

The 1.01 team is an orphan team that hasn't been filled yet so I'm waiting to jump on the new manager as soon as a new name appears. That team is really poor minus a couple of assets and the incoming picks. Drafting and holding RBs at this point doesn't make sense for that squad, imo, but who knows.

I'm in on either QB and Gibbs at 2 and 4 if nothing materializes. I've also considered trying something like this... calculators say it's an overpay but who knows what real ppl will feel. I would think the new manager would be interested in additional assets and some good ones at that.

1.01, 1.03, 1.10, BHall
For
1.02, 1.04, Tua, Metcalf, 2.07, 2.09

Anybody care to sort that offer out for me?

I like the Bijan Breece side here.

Bijan > 1.02 + 1.04
1.03 >= Tua ? Considering this will be a top QB. Tua is good but has legit long term concern.
Breece > DK
1.10 > 2nds

Maybe someone can correct one or 2 of those, but that deal is on the RB side to me.

[j4pac]

My QBs are Watson, Tua, Garopollo

Rest of my squad is in my sig.

Based on your build, it may be a bit tougher than I thought. It may cost a WR that is a bit steep to make the jump based on the 1.01 value this year.

Yeah, I've thought about making it a bigger deal and trying to get B Hall as well.

The only pieces this team has are Hall, Pitts, Burks, Wandale. The rest arguably not worth a roster spot. He does have 1.01, 1.03, 1.08, 1.10, 2.01, 2.02

He isn’t desperate to move back for a QB. He has 1.03 where he can get a QB. He knows you’re going RB. He could get Bijan and still get the top QB.

[bigbuck22]

Based on your build, it may be a bit tougher than I thought. It may cost a WR that is a bit steep to make the jump based on the 1.01 value this year.

Yeah, I've thought about making it a bigger deal and trying to get B Hall as well.

The only pieces this team has are Hall, Pitts, Burks, Wandale. The rest arguably not worth a roster spot. He does have 1.01, 1.03, 1.08, 1.10, 2.01, 2.02

He isn’t desperate to move back for a QB. He has 1.03 where he can get a QB. He knows you’re going RB. He could get Bijan and still get the top QB.

If I don't make a move, I'm going BPA... if that's two QBs, I'm happy to take the value and worry about lineups later. I only have to start 1 RB. Very flexible starting requirements

[wickerkat1212]

Well for me, 1.02 and 1.03 are QB picks. I have even seen 1.02-1.05 all be QB picks in rookie SF rookie drafts.
While Gibbs and/or JSN could come into play at 1.04, hard to see either going earlier than that in SF.
That doesn't mean they won't, as people reach in just about every draft.

That said, yes, I would trade the 1.01 for the 1.02 and the 1.04, and if I was trading 1.02 and the 1.04 for the 1.01, I would want a little something back on top, like I said, a 2nd round pick or player of similar value.

So the question really is would you rather have your choice of QB + (Gibbs OR JSN), OR Bijan + (Boutte OR Evans OR Tucker OR Downs)?

For me it is the Bijan side there, as I see him more of a can't miss prospect than either QB, Gibbs or JSN.
Bijan is in a tier all by himself, IMO.

Right, but not everyone needs a QB at 2/3. Obviously this guy with the 1.01 does, and if he doesn't take one there, he MAY get the 2nd best QB at 1.03. It's tricky. The guy with the 1/3 may go Young/Gibbs and 2/4 can go Bijan/QB-WR. With Watson, Tua, and Jimmy he doesn't HAVE to go QB there but he certainly can. Depends on how much he values the QBs and who is there with his pick.

If it was ME with the 1/3 I'd go Bijan/QB. I like Bijan over everyone else. But that's me.The OP has 2/4 and needs a RB so I'd still try to trade to get 1.01/Bijan but if it's ridiculous just take Gibbs/QB-WR at 4. Probably QB since there are question marks with Watson, Tua, and Jimmy. All three could start and play well, all three could go away pretty quickly. Depends on how you feel about Young/Stroud.

The 1.01 team is an orphan team that hasn't been filled yet so I'm waiting to jump on the new manager as soon as a new name appears.

What's the buy-in? I might be interested in that team. PM/DM me or hit me up at richardgthomasiii@gmail.com.

[bigbuck22]

Right, but not everyone needs a QB at 2/3. Obviously this guy with the 1.01 does, and if he doesn't take one there, he MAY get the 2nd best QB at 1.03. It's tricky. The guy with the 1/3 may go Young/Gibbs and 2/4 can go Bijan/QB-WR. With Watson, Tua, and Jimmy he doesn't HAVE to go QB there but he certainly can. Depends on how much he values the QBs and who is there with his pick.

If it was ME with the 1/3 I'd go Bijan/QB. I like Bijan over everyone else. But that's me.The OP has 2/4 and needs a RB so I'd still try to trade to get 1.01/Bijan but if it's ridiculous just take Gibbs/QB-WR at 4. Probably QB since there are question marks with Watson, Tua, and Jimmy. All three could start and play well, all three could go away pretty quickly. Depends on how you feel about Young/Stroud.

The 1.01 team is an orphan team that hasn't been filled yet so I'm waiting to jump on the new manager as soon as a new name appears.

What's the buy-in? I might be interested in that team. PM/DM me or hit me up at richardgthomasiii@gmail.com.

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[j4pac]

Yeah, I've thought about making it a bigger deal and trying to get B Hall as well.

The only pieces this team has are Hall, Pitts, Burks, Wandale. The rest arguably not worth a roster spot. He does have 1.01, 1.03, 1.08, 1.10, 2.01, 2.02

He isn’t desperate to move back for a QB. He has 1.03 where he can get a QB. He knows you’re going RB. He could get Bijan and still get the top QB.

If I don't make a move, I'm going BPA... if that's two QBs, I'm happy to take the value and worry about lineups later. I only have to start 1 RB. Very flexible starting requirements

He has 1.01 and 1.03…you can’t get the two top QBs if he wants one of them at 1.03. If I’m him, I’m not moving down with you. I’m taking Bijan and taking the best available QB at 1.03. If I’m moving 1.01…it’s for a QB much better than Young or Stroud

[MacDaddy123]

He isn’t desperate to move back for a QB. He has 1.03 where he can get a QB. He knows you’re going RB. He could get Bijan and still get the top QB.

If I don't make a move, I'm going BPA... if that's two QBs, I'm happy to take the value and worry about lineups later. I only have to start 1 RB. Very flexible starting requirements

He has 1.01 and 1.03…you can’t get the two top QBs if he wants one of them at 1.03. If I’m him, I’m not moving down with you. I’m taking Bijan and taking the best available QB at 1.03. If I’m moving 1.01…it’s for a QB much better than Young or Stroud

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THIS!!!

[bigbuck22]

Right, but not everyone needs a QB at 2/3. Obviously this guy with the 1.01 does, and if he doesn't take one there, he MAY get the 2nd best QB at 1.03. It's tricky. The guy with the 1/3 may go Young/Gibbs and 2/4 can go Bijan/QB-WR. With Watson, Tua, and Jimmy he doesn't HAVE to go QB there but he certainly can. Depends on how much he values the QBs and who is there with his pick.

If it was ME with the 1/3 I'd go Bijan/QB. I like Bijan over everyone else. But that's me.The OP has 2/4 and needs a RB so I'd still try to trade to get 1.01/Bijan but if it's ridiculous just take Gibbs/QB-WR at 4. Probably QB since there are question marks with Watson, Tua, and Jimmy. All three could start and play well, all three could go away pretty quickly. Depends on how you feel about Young/Stroud.

The 1.01 team is an orphan team that hasn't been filled yet so I'm waiting to jump on the new manager as soon as a new name appears. That team is really poor minus a couple of assets and the incoming picks. Drafting and holding RBs at this point doesn't make sense for that squad, imo, but who knows.

I'm in on either QB and Gibbs at 2 and 4 if nothing materializes. I've also considered trying something like this... calculators say it's an overpay but who knows what real ppl will feel. I would think the new manager would be interested in additional assets and some good ones at that.

1.01, 1.03, 1.10, BHall
For
1.02, 1.04, Tua, Metcalf, 2.07, 2.09

Anybody care to sort that offer out for me?

I like the Bijan Breece side here.

Bijan > 1.02 + 1.04
1.03 >= Tua ? Considering this will be a top QB. Tua is good but has legit long term concern.
Breece > DK
1.10 > 2nds

Maybe someone can correct one or 2 of those, but that deal is on the RB side to me.

Does anything change when I tell you this is the current and full roster? A build is a long way off.

QB: Mayfield, Trask, Brissett

RB: Hall, JMason, Ebner, Abdullah, Benjamin, Breida, Burkhead, Davis-Price, Hilliard, Ingram, T Montgomery, JPatterson, JWarren

WR: Burks, Wandale, Tolbert, Callaway, I McKenzie, Phillips, Westbrook-Irvine

TE: Pitts, HLong

1.01, 1.03, 1.08, 1.10, 2.01, 2.02, 3rd

[Jigga94]

The 1.01 team is an orphan team that hasn't been filled yet so I'm waiting to jump on the new manager as soon as a new name appears. That team is really poor minus a couple of assets and the incoming picks. Drafting and holding RBs at this point doesn't make sense for that squad, imo, but who knows.

I'm in on either QB and Gibbs at 2 and 4 if nothing materializes. I've also considered trying something like this... calculators say it's an overpay but who knows what real ppl will feel. I would think the new manager would be interested in additional assets and some good ones at that.

1.01, 1.03, 1.10, BHall
For
1.02, 1.04, Tua, Metcalf, 2.07, 2.09

Anybody care to sort that offer out for me?

I like the Bijan Breece side here.

Bijan > 1.02 + 1.04
1.03 >= Tua ? Considering this will be a top QB. Tua is good but has legit long term concern.
Breece > DK
1.10 > 2nds

Maybe someone can correct one or 2 of those, but that deal is on the RB side to me.

Does anything change when I tell you this is the current and full roster? A build is a long way off.

RB: Hall
WR: Burks
TE: Pitts
1.01, 1.03, 1.08, 1.10, 2.01, 2.02, 3rd

Not really. Value is still value and accumulating value is how you rebuild. It's not like Breece and Bijan are aging RB you need to get out from before they hit the age/value cliff.

I'd rather stay put if you can't find a better deal for 1.01. Draft Bijan and QB at 3 (assuming SF). Then BPA rest of the way. Maybe another QB at 8/10 and then probably taking tons of shot at the RB depth in this class. You'll need to find WR still, but I wouldn't reach for them in this class if you do end up making a lot of these picks

[bigbuck22]

I would say that almost nobody should be trading away some of these asking prices just to get Bijan. It's not worth it. Rebuilders need to accumulate value, yes, but some of these prices are nuts. There are likely rebuilders turning down solid overpays thinking they are better off with the one asset. In reality, that one asset is probably not going to outscore other top 10 backs any more than half the time.

[Shankopotamus]

If I was the holder of the 1.01 I'd start with the 1.02 and 1.04 and a little more on top.

Otherwise I'd just sell the 1.01 (and add if needed) for a young talented QB.

I'm not willing to give that much up. It's bad process when you can buy a different young RB for less and he'll produce pretty much in line with BR.

Why not just take Gibbs or see if he drafts a QB since he desperately needs one. Maybe he wants Young & Stroud at 1.01 and 1.03 instead of Bijan and one of the two.

Either way, there's no guarantees Bijan has a better career than Gibbs, and it's not worth overpaying for when you could easily trade 1.04 for a solid RB.

[DarthZoolander]

The guy with the 1.01 (& 1.03) desperately needs QB. His top option in a 12T SF is Baker. I need RB and hold the 1.02 (& 1.04).

What am I looking at paying to move from 2 to 1?

I got this done with the 1.02 and 2.02. Similar situation, guy with the first pick in a rebuild and needy at QB. He wanted a QB anyway and so he was willing to be reasonable. 1.02 and 1.04 is madness in a superflex in my opinion. If he won't budge, take Gibbs and your choice of QB and be happy.