Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:36 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:17 pm
I refrained from this until now, but now that it's so far gone, it doesn't matter.
The "woke" comment has me confused, as a Canadian, studying American politics, it seems to me it's a word used by Conservatives, of all races, that has to do with the idea that identity politics is being used the liberals, and mainly the liberal media and party (Democrats). It's not a word that is uttered by specifically one racial group. It's the argument of group identity over that of the individual, and this is, in of itself, a slippery slope, and exactly where it can be applied, or if it's being mis-applied.
I'd be glad to be enlightened on this, at least into the thoughts of what people meant, because I watch a great deal on both sides of the political spectrum, and personally, I don't buy into one side or the other. I tend to look an an issue, from both sides, and decide where I lie on it. I don't consider myself a life long member of any political party or doctrine, but I seem to see a very polarizing topics, and the West, in general, is getting that way.
Whenever I see ad hominem's mentioned, I feel I'd like actual quotes. I am sorry, this is nothing personal, but what was is "transphobic" for instance? Biological men being allowed in women's sports or traditional women's spaces is an issue, for instance, and some consider that "transphobic", to disallow it, while others say it's "woke".
Words matter, and blanket statements that are difficult to define, are problematic. People start arguing on vague meanings, that in of itself, mean different things to different people. So if there's no consensus on what those things mean, if people don't get to the heart of what they mean when they use these broad terms, nobody will get closer to consensus, things will only get more polarized.
A lot of transphobia is not recognizing people's wishes. It's disrespect. It's saying "you're not real, you don't exist, shut up and sit down." I can't imagine being transgender, that sounds like a tortured existence, much like it used to be if you were gay. When I was in high school back in the 1980s if you came out as gay, you got your bleep kicked. People equated it to pedophiles, and that's not accurate. In the case of the horror writing community and Tom Monteleone specifically there was a transgender author—born female, is now non-binary. He called them a fat black chick. So, lots of problems there, especially when they knew their pronouns. It's simply honoring somebody's preferences—maiden name vs married name, your job title, your nickname. It's respect. I won't speak to trans athletes in sports as that's much more complicated and nuanced. Hate is hate, and it's usually pretty obvious. I appreciate your post here and I know all of this can be a rather complicated conversation.
I think it's exciting that we have two Black QBs in the Superbowl. For Black history it is significant. But for the history of the sport, I think they probably don't want to be reduced to "Black QB" and just be seen as elite QBs. But the history does matter.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble