Risk of Tua?

[PBFalcon]

If I could anything significant for Tua I would take it. He could actually never play another snap of football.

[Anteaters]

If I could anything significant for Tua I would take it. He could actually never play another snap of football.

I've seen a lot of these type posts. What I haven't seen is a specific takeaway that would satisfy you (not picking on you PBF, but anyone else who's said the same) to dump the walking concussion.

What do you (and all of you) consider "anything significant" to be?

In SF, is it a 1st? A 2nd? Akers? Mike Williams? Zach Wilson?

In 1qb, is it Ridder? Is it Heinike? Is it a late 2nd? Is it Mooney?

I'm just wondering what's the real price to dump a guy who was QB4-6 in most leagues before he missed his first game in 2022. We aren't talking about Michael Thomas who was clearly done. We're talking about a guy who could maybe be a T6QB if he plays the entire season. I wish he would retire, but I don't control that. But if I have him on my team, I'm not dumping that sort of potential for a late 2nd.

So what's the price you guys are talking about?

[LMS123]

I posted about this too a few weeks back and the consensus seemed to be trade if you can, but what the return should be was unclear. For team 2 in my description I'm trying to package Tua, 2.02, and maybe 1 or 2 2024 1sts for a QB upgrade and a WR1

[PBFalcon]

If I could anything significant for Tua I would take it. He could actually never play another snap of football.

I've seen a lot of these type posts. What I haven't seen is a specific takeaway that would satisfy you (not picking on you PBF, but anyone else who's said the same) to dump the walking concussion.

What do you (and all of you) consider "anything significant" to be?

In SF, is it a 1st? A 2nd? Akers? Mike Williams? Zach Wilson?

In 1qb, is it Ridder? Is it Heinike? Is it a late 2nd? Is it Mooney?

I'm just wondering what's the real price to dump a guy who was QB4-6 in most leagues before he missed his first game in 2022. We aren't talking about Michael Thomas who was clearly done. We're talking about a guy who could maybe be a T6QB if he plays the entire season. I wish he would retire, but I don't control that. But if I have him on my team, I'm not dumping that sort of potential for a late 2nd.

So what's the price you guys are talking about?

I don't own him so I can't truly say what I would take, but I think you answered your own question.
You won't take a late second. So you would take a mid 2nd or better. It gonna be different for everyone.
Something significant for me means someone with potential to make a difference to my team. Or a couple decent dart throws. If I had the roster space then a 2nd that's on the clock so I know who I am getting or random 2nd and 3rd would be enough for me.
Ridder, Heinicke, and Mooney would not be worth it for me to pivot. Someone has to still believe in Tua right now enough to make a better offer than that...I would think.

[Anteaters]

Something significant for me means someone with potential to make a difference to my team. Or a couple decent dart throws. If I had the roster space then a 2nd that's on the clock so I know who I am getting or random 2nd and 3rd would be enough for me.
Ridder, Heinicke, and Mooney would not be worth it for me to pivot. Someone has to still believe in Tua right now enough to make a better offer than that...I would think.

That's the key for me. Someone good enough to make a difference on my team.

If you say Ridder and Mooney aren't worth it, I wonder if a random 2nd (much less a 3rd) would mean anything. And in the end, I think that gets back to what you said at the end.

"Someone has to ... make a better offer than that."

To me a better offer and "make a difference" is at least a 1st. Or a WR better than Chicago's WR1. I have Tua on multiple teams and I'm not taking a dart throw 2nd for him. I'll gamble on his unfortunate situation rather than take 2023's Dotson/Cook/Rachaad/Spiller/etc.

If I'm going to trade a potential (but risky) high-end QB1, I need at the least a shot at an Olave or Pickens (in 1qb or 2qb) or the 3rd or 4th QB in 2qb. Or I need a good young position player -- not necessarily the WR10, but not the WR25.

Finding the right price for Tua that doesn't cheat the Tua owner or present an unnecessarily huge risk for the guy acquiring Tua is going to be a tough needle to thread. I think the hunters are looking to give up a late 2nd or 3rd, or bum players. Any Tua owner who accepts that is a doggone fool.

This is the picture of a deal that probably can't get done.