2022-23 coaching carousel

[FantasyFreak]

Goodbye Staley. Not just a loss, but one of the worst playoff lossses ever.

Not sure Spanos will eat the two years left. Spanos is extremely cheap and Anthony Lynn and Mike McCoy both went three years into their four year contracts and then were given an extension after terrible year threes. Both those extensions were one year deals and I can’t see any details on either of those extensions. I suspect both of those were hollow and just to avoid lame duck status and Spanos was just playing out their contracts to avoid any sort of payout.

They fired Norv with one year left on his deal as well, if you want to go back further. Spanos is a cheap bastard. Embarrassment isn’t going to move him.

Would be interesting if the Spanos' cheapness plays into the Herbert extension negotiations.

Would he give Staley that game ball back? They haven't won since Staley did it.....that would be compensation, at least.

https://twitter.com/DevineGospel/status ... 2604730374

Remember when HOF coach Jimmy Johnson told the owner to stay out of the locker room (or else) paraphrasing, of course. Still. Some people are built differently. Maybe he was doing this for his "get of jail free card"? I hope the Chargers keep this joker...

[Anteaters]

Staley should probably go, but not because of Williams' injury. Williams gets injured more than a rock star goes to rehab. Heck, didn't he get injured once getting out of his car at McDonalds? It's very possible (likely even) that Williams would have gotten injured early in the wildcard game. The only difference is people wouldn't get to blame the injury on a coach.

If SD is smart, whether or not the team fires Staley they'll trade/cut Williams and not be held hostage by his yearly string of injuries.

[dustyroads]

Staley should probably go, but not because of Williams' injury. Williams gets injured more than a rock star goes to rehab. Heck, didn't he get injured once getting out of his car at McDonalds? It's very possible (likely even) that Williams would have gotten injured early in the wildcard game. The only difference is people wouldn't get to blame the injury on a coach.

If SD is smart, whether or not the team fires Staley they'll trade/cut Williams and not be held hostage by his yearly string of injuries.

He played in 16 games last season, only missing part of one game. And then there's this:
"Leading the Chargers with 895 receiving yards in 13 games played this season, Williams' presence on the field has had a great effect on Herbert's third-down passing efficiency. The Chargers quarterback is averaging 7.7 yards per attempt with seven TDs, one interception and a 108.6 passer rating with Williams playing and mustering 5.8 YPA, no TDs, two INTs and a 61.8 passer rating without Williams. The Chargers offense has also averaged 3.5 points and 50-plus yards per game more with Williams in the lineup this season. "

Might be frustrating for fantasy owners (I'm one of them, and would agree it's frustrating), but he makes that team a hell of a lot better then they are without him at all. They'd be dumb to cut Williams or trade him away for peanuts. And yes, Staley should absolutely be criticized and possibly lose his job for playing Williams in a meaningless week 18 game knowing he'd been struggling with injuries this season.

[killer_of_giants]

Williams gets injured more than a rock star goes to rehab.

in the past 5 seasons he's missed 7 games (4 this season).

even i have been to rehab more than that, and i'm not a rock star!

[Anteaters]

Williams gets injured more than a rock star goes to rehab.

in the past 5 seasons he's missed 7 games (4 this season).

even i have been to rehab more than that, and i'm not a rock star!

Okay, I exaggerated. I guess I mixed up getting injured with the long stretches in his career where he was ineffectual but touted (and I believed) as too talented to overlook. Williams just strikes me as that fantasy player will will never deliver when you really need him. I agree Williams helped SD when healthy in 2022.

And I agree they won't just cut him. But I also think they'd be better off if they could trade him for whatever seems fair value, then acquire another WR who will be more dependable. Maybe I have an irrational bias against Williams, but I don't trust him - as a player.

[mild]

Okay, I exaggerated. I guess I mixed up getting injured with the long stretches in his career where he was ineffectual but touted (and I believed) as too talented to overlook. Williams just strikes me as that fantasy player will will never deliver when you really need him. I agree Williams helped SD when healthy in 2022.

Never let the facts get in the way of a great stroll down narrative street / knee-jerk DLF Forums post.

[bjd5211]

Harbaugh staying at Michigan

[mild]

Cardinals have a new GM - Monti Ossenfort.

Only the 2nd GM hire to come from outside the organisation since Joe Sullivan in 1979.

(Feel like that explains a lot)

[Anteaters]

Never let the facts get in the way of a great stroll down narrative street / knee-jerk DLF Forums post.

Always a risk.

[Pullo Vision]

Byron Leftwich let go as Tampa's OC. Would make sense to bring him to Pittsburgh in an assistant capacity. If Canada faceplants again, they'll have a successor available in season.

[ericanadian]

So, Chargers make worst decision possible and fire Lombardi while keeping Staley. This could potentially derail Herbert’s career as I have to assume Staley will be on the hot seat and Herbert could potentially be seeing two new systems over the next two seasons.

[ericanadian]

Byron Leftwich let go as Tampa's OC. Would make sense to bring him to Pittsburgh in an assistant capacity. If Canada faceplants again, they'll have a successor available in season.

He has connections to Pittsburgh, given that he finished his career there. Maybe him and Lombardi will trade jobs.

[Ice]

Byron Leftwich let go as Tampa's OC. Would make sense to bring him to Pittsburgh in an assistant capacity. If Canada faceplants again, they'll have a successor available in season.

He has connections to Pittsburgh, given that he finished his career there. Maybe him and Lombardi will trade jobs.

I imagine Jacksonville is elated he withdrew his name last year as a HC candidate.

Think he may have a tough time getting another OC job let alone a HC after this past year.

[bjd5211]

So, Chargers make worst decision possible and fire Lombardi while keeping Staley. This could potentially derail Herbert’s career as I have to assume Staley will be on the hot seat and Herbert could potentially be seeing two new systems over the next two seasons.

Herbert is clearly good enough he's going to be fine no matter who the OC is, it's not going to derail anything he just won't fully reach his potential unless he gets a great OC like any QB. Lombardi is a terrible OC and absolutely had to go, keeping a bad coach for the sake of "stability" is much worse than moving on and trying to find an upgrade. They should be getting rid of Staley as well I agree, but getting a new staff on offense was the bare minimum necessity.

[Pullo Vision]

Byron Leftwich let go as Tampa's OC. Would make sense to bring him to Pittsburgh in an assistant capacity. If Canada faceplants again, they'll have a successor available in season.

He has connections to Pittsburgh, given that he finished his career there. Maybe him and Lombardi will trade jobs.

I imagine Jacksonville is elated he withdrew his name last year as a HC candidate.

Think he may have a tough time getting another OC job let alone a HC after this past year.

Yep, Leftwich was seen as a rising coaching prospect until Arians left. Him returning to Tomlin as an assistant coach makes sense, especially with how they brought in Flores after he was cast off. Maybe he'll be able to rehabilitate his value, though I don't see Canada as someone who can help with that.

The OC job for LAR is still open. If Leftwich wants to develop his scheme coaching ability, that'd be a good long term choice.