I want no part of him, but managers keep shopping him to me in my SF leagues. Has my hatred gone too far?
2023 1.10 and a 2024 first (team finished 4th to last this year) for Kyler.
Trevor Lawrence for Kyler and the 2023 1.11.
Thoughts?
Kyler Murray value?
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Kyler Murray value?
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Re: Kyler Murray value?
I would not move Lawrence in a deal for Murray. Two late 1sts in a 12 or more team SF league however is a solid price. He does come with some risk though obviously.
Re: Kyler Murray value?
I second this and would add...Gator Sens wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:23 pm I would not move Lawrence in a deal for Murray. Two late 1sts in a 12 or more team SF league however is a solid price. He does come with some risk though obviously.
If you want nothing to do with him, much of your league likely feels the same way. Solid chance you'd be stuck with a guy you don't want. For this reason, it would have to be an incredible value for me to take him on.
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Re: Kyler Murray value?
non superflex I just offered (2) 2023 seconds. One early and one late. That team is in rebuild mode so they may be fine waiting on Murray, but they also have other QBs so maybe they want out.
12 Team PPR Dynasty. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D, 21 roster spots.
2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, Kupp, KA, JSN, T. Boyd, Mingo, Thomas, Toney
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Likely, Dulcic
2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 2, 2, 2
2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, JT, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely
2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3
2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Burrow, Cousins, Watson, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo
2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
2025: 1, 2, 3
2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, Kupp, KA, JSN, T. Boyd, Mingo, Thomas, Toney
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Likely, Dulcic
2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 2, 2, 2
2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, JT, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely
2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3
2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Burrow, Cousins, Watson, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo
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2025: 1, 2, 3
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Re: Kyler Murray value?
I am not a Murray fan either, though I do realize that many still like him, and are absolutely looking to buy him now.
Two late 1sts is not a bad price for Murray, but still more than I would want to pay.
I do know guys who would jump at buying Murray for two late 1sts.
All depends on your individual value on a player.
Best I could probably offer for Murray is a late 1st and a mid 2nd, and I know the Murray owner in my league would not accept that.
I want no part of sending out TLaw for Murray though.
Two late 1sts is not a bad price for Murray, but still more than I would want to pay.
I do know guys who would jump at buying Murray for two late 1sts.
All depends on your individual value on a player.
Best I could probably offer for Murray is a late 1st and a mid 2nd, and I know the Murray owner in my league would not accept that.
I want no part of sending out TLaw for Murray though.
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Re: Kyler Murray value?
Not close. No way I am moving off T Law for that. Even if Kyler gets Payton, not happening. I'd want another early first to even consider it. I really don't value Kyler enough to downgrade from T Law.kilgorextrout wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:21 pm I want no part of him, but managers keep shopping him to me in my SF leagues. Has my hatred gone too far?
2023 1.10 and a 2024 first (team finished 4th to last this year) for Kyler.
Trevor Lawrence for Kyler and the 2023 1.11.
Thoughts?
I have Mahomes, Allen, then Burrow, T Law and Herbert just behind them, and any of those 5, I'm not interested in moving if I am not getting one of those others back, unless I get a haul AND a next tier QB back.
Go with your gut. I want no part of him either, and you shouldn't trade cornerstone players for a guy you want no part of.
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Re: Kyler Murray value?
++Gator Sens wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:23 pm I would not move Lawrence in a deal for Murray. Two late 1sts in a 12 or more team SF league however is a solid price. He does come with some risk though obviously.
doubling down on this.
I'd jump at getting Kyler for two late 1sts.
Instant reject the TLaw offer. Nope. Nope.
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QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
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TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Kyler Murray value?
Late first and early second, but only if I have a need at QB. If I got my 2 I am taking a soft pass.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
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QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
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QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
Re: Kyler Murray value?
I wouldn't plan on him playing much at all in 2023 and I'm only buying if he comes really cheap. I'm with you, not a real fan of his. Too me a LOT depends on who the next coach is in Arizona and if they can control him.
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RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
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K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
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2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
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Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
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Re: Kyler Murray value?
What is really cheap? In terms of draft picks what would you pay?
12 Team PPR Dynasty. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D, 21 roster spots.
2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, Kupp, KA, JSN, T. Boyd, Mingo, Thomas, Toney
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Likely, Dulcic
2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 2, 2, 2
2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, JT, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely
2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3
2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Burrow, Cousins, Watson, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo
2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
2025: 1, 2, 3
2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, Kupp, KA, JSN, T. Boyd, Mingo, Thomas, Toney
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Likely, Dulcic
2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 2, 2, 2
2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, JT, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely
2024: 1.01
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3
2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Burrow, Cousins, Watson, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo
2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
2025: 1, 2, 3