Elijah Mitchell thread

[FantasyFreak]

I don’t disagree. 2nd rounders are crapshoots too. But no one is saying you have to pick a player with that pick either. Trade it for a known player. Use it to upgrade a player. Etc.

Yeah, people say this a lot in general, when talking about picks. You don't have to pick players with them. Picks are basically the most liquid asset in this game. EVERYBODY wants them. There are usually only a handful of teams that want a certain player in your leagues, other than the top elite guys. So if you have reservations about a player, say a guy you originally drafted in the 3rd round, and you can move him for a 2nd plus, or even a 2nd, then it's a great way to build your team the way you want, because you've made a move that gains you value. Picks are so good for getting deals done, on players that you believe in.

I think the point being willfully missed by those who think they are 4 steps away from turning a current 4th round pick into a 1st rounder 3 years down the road or an elite position player in 4 years is that had people traded away Mitchell as advised they would have taken a very likely diminished value in return.

That difference in value between Michell and any future value could be huge if Mitchell captures and holds that SF RB1 position for a meaningful time. And it could be that Mitchell ends up being the asset that the trading owner is going to go through several trades and years hoping - and it is nothing more than hoping - to acquire in the first place.

Yeah. I was talking in general terms, and also stated it's down to the FF owner's subjective belief in the player. If you believe Mitchell will gain value, you obviously hold. If you believe he's at peak value, and can make a profit off of your original investment, you trade him.

[dynastyninja]

I do not get this take.

Has an ability to string together multiple cutbacks, good route runner out of the backfield with soft hands, can break tackles, and has break away speed.

His biggest issue is whether he can take a massive load with his frame because imo he’s much better than either Wilson or TDP

I don't think it's outrageous to not be high on an RB drafted in the 6th round. He just doesn't look very good in my opinion.

Makes me wonder what you are and are not seeing when you watch Mitchell play. The production is clear as is the injury risk factor. Draft capital shouldn't be used too heavily at this point in my opinion. It occurs to me that this opinion and blunt assessment of E.Mitchell might be tied to T.Sermon ownership.

It's funny because I've been assuming most of his supporters were owners. I don't own either Mitchell or Sermon, no shares in the SFO backfield for me.

[frerichs5]

I don’t disagree. 2nd rounders are crapshoots too. But no one is saying you have to pick a player with that pick either. Trade it for a known player. Use it to upgrade a player. Etc.

Yeah, people say this a lot in general, when talking about picks. You don't have to pick players with them. Picks are basically the most liquid asset in this game. EVERYBODY wants them. There are usually only a handful of teams that want a certain player in your leagues, other than the top elite guys. So if you have reservations about a player, say a guy you originally drafted in the 3rd round, and you can move him for a 2nd plus, or even a 2nd, then it's a great way to build your team the way you want, because you've made a move that gains you value. Picks are so good for getting deals done, on players that you believe in.

I think the point being willfully missed by those who think they are 4 steps away from turning a current 4th round pick into a 1st rounder 3 years down the road or an elite position player in 4 years is that had people traded away Mitchell as advised they would have taken a very likely diminished value in return.

That difference in value between Michell and any future value could be huge if Mitchell captures and holds that SF RB1 position for a meaningful time. And it could be that Mitchell ends up being the asset that the trading owner is going to go through several trades and years hoping - and it is nothing more than hoping - to acquire in the first place.

I completely understand this. I was talking more about this type of player profile in general rather than Mitchell specifically. Mitchell is the outlier to me. 9 times out of 10 getting out at the value spike is the way to go in my opinion. If that means I miss a Mitchell every once in a while, I’m ok with that.

[natjjohn]

Can’t say I watched every game or snap, but other than when Deebo was running the ball, the rest of the crew I think were replaceable with each other. Doesn’t mean Elijah is a sell. If I had him, I’d hold him even if my thought is 100% accurate, you want the replaceable guy that’s getting the work. That’s Elijah, though you the run the risk of him getting replaced. If he’s replaced, it is likely due to just injuries if his first season is an omen for the future.

Again though, if I have him, I’m holding unless have some sort of deal with at least one 1st if not two which nobody would pay further entrenching my hold status

[Jigga94]

Well that didn't last long

[StripesOfKC]

This is why you sell low draft cap RBs

If Jordan Mason or Tyrion Davis Price performs while Mitchell is out he doesn't get his job back like a round 2/3 RB would have

[Lumps]

Surprised to see that no one bumped this after he came back from IR….and got EIGHTEEN carries with SF adding CMC?!!? He got 4 more carries and even 2 targets.

What do we make of this?

[Jigga94]

Surprised to see that no one bumped this after he came back from IR….and got EIGHTEEN carries with SF adding CMC?!!? He got 4 more carries and even 2 targets.

What do we make of this?

I really don't have an opinion on it because I think we will see this offense lean on CMC much more than Mitchell in the long run, but the numbers from the game for Mitchell are crazy.

25 snaps, 18 carries, 1 rec and another target. When he was in they wanted to use him.

SF loves the run game and they know they can't overload CMC. I wouldn't expect this split every game, but Mitchell should get decent touches still and might be flex worthy

[Bronco Billy]

This is why you sell low draft cap RBs

If Jordan Mason or Tyrion Davis Price performs while Mitchell is out he doesn't get his job back like a round 2/3 RB would have

That’s pretty farfetched considered what Mitchell proved he could do in that offense when healthy. When a player posts great numbers a HC could care less when he was drafted.

[Bronco Billy]

Surprised to see that no one bumped this after he came back from IR….and got EIGHTEEN carries with SF adding CMC?!!? He got 4 more carries and even 2 targets.

What do we make of this?

I really don't have an opinion on it because I think we will see this offense lean on CMC much more than Mitchell in the long run, but the numbers from the game for Mitchell are crazy.

25 snaps, 18 carries, 1 rec and another target. When he was in they wanted to use him.

SF loves the run game and they know they can't overload CMC. I wouldn't expect this split every game, but Mitchell should get decent touches still and might be flex worthy

Shanahan said he wanted to see an even split between them and lived up to it. As a Mitchell owner I’d love to see him getting 18-20 touches to CMC’s 20-24 touches each game. Helps both guys IMO.

[steelman]

I'm starting him over Swift this week, I think

[Jigga94]

Surprised to see that no one bumped this after he came back from IR….and got EIGHTEEN carries with SF adding CMC?!!? He got 4 more carries and even 2 targets.

What do we make of this?

I really don't have an opinion on it because I think we will see this offense lean on CMC much more than Mitchell in the long run, but the numbers from the game for Mitchell are crazy.

25 snaps, 18 carries, 1 rec and another target. When he was in they wanted to use him.

SF loves the run game and they know they can't overload CMC. I wouldn't expect this split every game, but Mitchell should get decent touches still and might be flex worthy

Shanahan said he wanted to see an even split between them and lived up to it. As a Mitchell owner I’d love to see him getting 18-20 touches to CMC’s 20-24 touches each game. Helps both guys IMO.

Yeah obviously it would be great for Mitchell to get 20 touches in this offense. That's at least an RB2 in fantasy and more touches than some RB1s get.

I just don't think Mitchell sees that amount consistently moving forward, but I'd bet the over on 10 touches per game moving forward.

Agreed that they'd be smart to split them since both backs have injury concerns

[Mike11]

I'm starting him over Swift this week, I think

Swift feast incoming a week before Thanksgiving. I have both and am starting Swift. Don't let the frustration keep boiling, I think we're getting further away from his injury and will see his usage tick up more.

[FantasyFreak]

I'm starting him over Swift this week, I think

Swift feast incoming a week before Thanksgiving. I have both and am starting Swift. Don't let the frustration keep boiling, I think we're getting further away from his injury and will see his usage tick up more.

Which will likely lead to his next injury.

[Pullo Vision]

Surprised to see that no one bumped this after he came back from IR….and got EIGHTEEN carries with SF adding CMC?!!? He got 4 more carries and even 2 targets.

What do we make of this?

I think it was all about the matchup. They knew they could be beaten by the run and hammered away. The LAC supposedly were down to three healthy DTs. The gameplan was an aberration- people don't really believe Deebo and Kittle will be similarly (under) utilized, do they? No need to run your blue chips into the ground when a heavy dose of Aiyuk and Mitchell can win you the game.

The actionable info imo was Mitchell was healthy enough to take all those snaps/touches and be productive.