Commish question

[jwb32]

Commissioner page is completely dead so asking here.

Got a paid owner ($50) who did not set lineup this week. He’s been offline since June. I’ve reached out on GroupMe league chat but received no response. The twist is, he logged in before games started on Sunday. I want to replace him as I have zero tolerance for unengaged owners and not setting lineup on WEEK 1!! is beyond egregious, but would like other opinions.

[abloom]

Commissioner page is completely dead so asking here.

Got a paid owner ($50) who did not set lineup this week. He’s been offline since June. I’ve reached out on GroupMe league chat but received no response. The twist is, he logged in before games started on Sunday. I want to replace him as I have zero tolerance for unengaged owners and not setting lineup on WEEK 1!! is beyond egregious, but would like other opinions.

Replace and refund his money.

I'd do this by: starting to find replacement owners now, but sending him an email or phone call (whatever the most direct form of communication you have) and tell him to get in touch of you in 48 hours. If he fails to do so replace him and ask him how he'd like to receive his dues back.

The league may have to eat the cost of the dues for the year, but that's really a small price to pay for getting rid of an inactive owner.

[Gator Sens]

I agree with abloom. Call the manager and see what is going on and why this happened. You have all week to set a lineup so there should be no reason to why this happened but it at least gives the manager a chance to talk to you about it and it reflects well on you for trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. However an inactive manager in dynasty can really hurt a league and I would be looking to replace the manager pretty quickly if you get any feeling this will ever be an issue again. Remove the manager now if you don't think this will change. I also think refunding their money is a good move. If they want to stay in the league and you think this will not be an issue moving forward, I would still dock the manager a pick to also show the league this is unacceptable. Fantasy may not mean as much to some but for those that are really into it, this kind of stuff is just not okay and can chip away at a league.

Sorry to hear you have to deal with a big time issue after only week 1.

[jobiegermano]

Piling on, in agreement with both answers above ^^^

[dblj1199]

I'd simply reach out again, see what's up, tell him no response means he will be refunded and replaced. I'd make sure all the other owners are on board and know what's going on as well.

[jwb32]

Commissioner page is completely dead so asking here.

Got a paid owner ($50) who did not set lineup this week. He’s been offline since June. I’ve reached out on GroupMe league chat but received no response. The twist is, he logged in before games started on Sunday. I want to replace him as I have zero tolerance for unengaged owners and not setting lineup on WEEK 1!! is beyond egregious, but would like other opinions.

Replace and refund his money.

I'd do this by: starting to find replacement owners now, but sending him an email or phone call (whatever the most direct form of communication you have) and tell him to get in touch of you in 48 hours. If he fails to do so replace him and ask him how he'd like to receive his dues back.

The league may have to eat the cost of the dues for the year, but that's really a small price to pay for getting rid of an inactive owner.

I'm surprised everyone seems to agree that the owner should be refunded. You join a league. You participate in the rookie draft. You make a few trades then go dark for 10 weeks. You ignore trade requests. Then do not set a lineup in week 1 gifting a team a win and thereby pinning a loss on any future owner. Now I need to try to find a new owner to come in after season has started and take over an 0-1 team. Just playing devils advocate, what is the argument for refunding the fee?

[abloom]

Commissioner page is completely dead so asking here.

Got a paid owner ($50) who did not set lineup this week. He’s been offline since June. I’ve reached out on GroupMe league chat but received no response. The twist is, he logged in before games started on Sunday. I want to replace him as I have zero tolerance for unengaged owners and not setting lineup on WEEK 1!! is beyond egregious, but would like other opinions.

Replace and refund his money.

I'd do this by: starting to find replacement owners now, but sending him an email or phone call (whatever the most direct form of communication you have) and tell him to get in touch of you in 48 hours. If he fails to do so replace him and ask him how he'd like to receive his dues back.

The league may have to eat the cost of the dues for the year, but that's really a small price to pay for getting rid of an inactive owner.

I'm surprised everyone seems to agree that the owner should be refunded. You join a league. You participate in the rookie draft. You make a few trades then go dark for 10 weeks. You ignore trade requests. Then do not set a lineup in week 1 gifting a team a win and thereby pinning a loss on any future owner. Now I need to try to find a new owner to come in after season has started and take over an 0-1 team. Just playing devils advocate, what is the argument for refunding the fee?

Because it's worth it to get rid of an inactive owner.

[Alex116]

Because it's worth it to get rid of an inactive owner.

Never commish'd, but can't you simply get rid of them whether they like it or not?

[Anteaters]

Because it's worth it to get rid of an inactive owner.

Never commish'd, but can't you simply get rid of them whether they like it or not?

You can. The tricky part is how to handle the entry fee. Kicking out an owner after week 1 is basically kicking him out of the entire season which isn't fair (to me) without refunding his entry fee. I don't disagree entirely with kicking him out now, but I also generally take a slightly more patient approach to such a drastic move.

If the owner is kicked out and $ refunded, I agree the replacement owner should get to play this season for free and the league (meaning other owners) absorb the cost of that entry fee by reducing the payouts by $50 for this season.

[abloom]

Because it's worth it to get rid of an inactive owner.

Never commish'd, but can't you simply get rid of them whether they like it or not?

You can, and then you can get a reputation for taking people's money.

[burntfire]

I just had a guy draft and paid the entry fee. No reimbursement as he left on his own accord.

Definitely can't have inactive players though.

[WOATjohn]

I’ve had to kick a couple people out over the years for the best interest of the league. Unengaged owners are annoying and league killers. I always give someone 48 hours to respond to me, as groupme is mandatory and in the bylaws. I booted someone out this off-season because of this and I felt bad, but it’s been a great decision for the quality of the league.

[hoos89]

Commissioner page is completely dead so asking here.

Got a paid owner ($50) who did not set lineup this week. He’s been offline since June. I’ve reached out on GroupMe league chat but received no response. The twist is, he logged in before games started on Sunday. I want to replace him as I have zero tolerance for unengaged owners and not setting lineup on WEEK 1!! is beyond egregious, but would like other opinions.

Replace and refund his money.

I'd do this by: starting to find replacement owners now, but sending him an email or phone call (whatever the most direct form of communication you have) and tell him to get in touch of you in 48 hours. If he fails to do so replace him and ask him how he'd like to receive his dues back.

The league may have to eat the cost of the dues for the year, but that's really a small price to pay for getting rid of an inactive owner.

I'm surprised everyone seems to agree that the owner should be refunded. You join a league. You participate in the rookie draft. You make a few trades then go dark for 10 weeks. You ignore trade requests. Then do not set a lineup in week 1 gifting a team a win and thereby pinning a loss on any future owner. Now I need to try to find a new owner to come in after season has started and take over an 0-1 team. Just playing devils advocate, what is the argument for refunding the fee?

Agreed, I wouldn't refund him. I'd give him the chance to respond and explain though.

[Seth26]

Sounds like you got plenty of advice in the commish stuff. If you are looking for an extremely active owner to take over lmk.

Also i wouldn't refund him. He didn't show up after he paid and you tried your best to get ahold of him. Use his fee to find the new manager and let them come in for free first year

[sloth8u]

I can tolerate just sitting on your team without trading. I can tolerate not logging on the website. You can't tolerate ignoring emails and not setting a lineup in dynasty leagues.

All league members have paid and they deserve a fair shake. Having an owner/s that miss setting their lineup can determine standings and that becomes a real issue.

I don't think that it's necessary to boot the owner...but you have to be clear that this can't happen and they're gone if it happens again. I'd suggest giving them the option to leave with refund if this is yr 1 or a new owner. An owner that's been around awhile, I'd hope they want to stick around, but if they choose to stay and it happens again, you will be keeping their buy in and replacing.

I know it's not ideal for week 1, and this may set a precedent for things like this happening in the future. Let's say a playoff team doesn't set a lineup late in the season...do you plan on booting them? As commish, your ultimately in charge of making decisions for the leagues best interest....