What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

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What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby PBFalcon » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:43 pm

I have been tossing around the idea of trading Kittle for a 2023 1st (and some change).

It seems every year I am disappointed in his production. He hovers around 1000 yards and 5-6 TDs each season. Most weeks his stats are very underwhelming but out of nowhere he will go off for 2 or 3 games each season, which is his only saving grace. Otherwise he puts up 50-60yds and doesn't get in the end zone very frequently.

Then there is problem of if/when Lance takes over, the team might throw way less.

I am thinking I could grab a TE off the WW like G Everett and get 30 yds a game and just as many TDs. Only 30yds (3 pts) less than Kittle.

I know a lot of people would say "yes trade him" since I have Pitts but I love having depth.

I am more wondering what others opinions of Kittle are? Am I way off base and just spoiled by having him on my roster for so long OR do other owners feel the same way?
10 team dynasty began 2016
Standard scoring (no PPR, all TDs 6pts)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def

2018 2nd
2019 2nd
2020 CHAMP
2021 2nd
2022 *co-champ...yuck

QB: P Mahomes
RB: J Taylor, T Etienne, D Swift, B Robinson Jr, J Mixon, J Gibbs, Z Charbonnet, R Johnson, J Wilson
WR: J Jefferson, J Chase, J Waddle, DK Metcalf, J Addison, T Dell, J Downs, M Williams, K Toney, , C Claypool
TE: K Pitts, G Kittle
K: Stream
Def: SF

2024 picks: 1 (early/mid), 1 ,2 3 (early/mid), 3, 4, 5, 6

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:52 pm

I think Everett offers much less than Kittle week to week but I would move Kittle for the right return based on having Pitts. If you can get a 1st+ a young asset would be great but either way, it never hurts to shop.

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby never_punts » Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:54 am

I've been shopping kittle around and I can't find anyone interested

I have not been able to get a 23 1st but I'd take one
I have tried straight up for Pittman, declined
I received a verbal offer to give kittle and a 2nd to get dk. When I sent it it was declined with no counter
I tried for diontae too, no response yet
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25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
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QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby PBFalcon » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:05 am

never_punts wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:54 am I've been shopping kittle around and I can't find anyone interested

I have not been able to get a 23 1st but I'd take one
I have tried straight up for Pittman, declined
I received a verbal offer to give kittle and a 2nd to get dk. When I sent it it was declined with no counter
I tried for diontae too, no response yet
So his value could be trending down...
10 team dynasty began 2016
Standard scoring (no PPR, all TDs 6pts)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def

2018 2nd
2019 2nd
2020 CHAMP
2021 2nd
2022 *co-champ...yuck

QB: P Mahomes
RB: J Taylor, T Etienne, D Swift, B Robinson Jr, J Mixon, J Gibbs, Z Charbonnet, R Johnson, J Wilson
WR: J Jefferson, J Chase, J Waddle, DK Metcalf, J Addison, T Dell, J Downs, M Williams, K Toney, , C Claypool
TE: K Pitts, G Kittle
K: Stream
Def: SF

2024 picks: 1 (early/mid), 1 ,2 3 (early/mid), 3, 4, 5, 6

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby kellysheroes » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:22 am

never_punts wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:54 am I've been shopping kittle around and I can't find anyone interested

I have not been able to get a 23 1st but I'd take one
I have tried straight up for Pittman, declined
I received a verbal offer to give kittle and a 2nd to get dk. When I sent it it was declined with no counter
I tried for diontae too, no response yet
this seems on point

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby sloth8u » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:46 am

I see no point of trading him if your team is solid. For yrs I've owned multiple high end te's in multiple leagues. Alot of the time, I start both and when I don't, the depth is nice to have. Keep in mind that kittle/Pitts on your bench is better than in your opponents line up.

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:07 am

In a vanilla league, Kittle is worth an early 23 First if I’m a contender - in order for me to sell him, that is. Dude is an absolute stud and an elite performer when healthy.

Even as a buyer, in a vanilla league he’s worth a mid First all day long.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby bennythedog93 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:37 am

never_punts wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:54 am I've been shopping kittle around and I can't find anyone interested

I have not been able to get a 23 1st but I'd take one
I have tried straight up for Pittman, declined
I received a verbal offer to give kittle and a 2nd to get dk. When I sent it it was declined with no counter
I tried for diontae too, no response yet
This… see my sig… I have tried as well, though my league is standard with no TE premium.
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st:1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 d, no flex
QB - TLaw, Tua, JimmyG
RB - Breece, Chubb, Javonte, BRob, Moss, Zamir, Jaleel, Perine, Bigsby, RoJo (Chi), Tucker, C-Rod, Chase, Spiller
WR - Addison, Godwin, Nico, Gabe, Zay Jones, Mooney, Hyatt, Tillman
TE - Kincaid, Kraft
PK -Tucker
Def - 49ers
Picks: 2024 - 1.08, 3.01-7.01 and add’l 3.09; 2025 - 1-7

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QB - Jimmy G(*16), Purdy(*9), Stafford(12)
RB - D-Mont, AJ Dillon, Lenny(17), Carter (19), D’Onta(9), P Taylor
WR - JJeff(3), Adams(*4), Godwin(*8), MWill(*5), OBJ(*13), Woods, Hyatt(10), Tillman(18)
TE - PatF(6), Mayer(10)
PK - Moody
Def - TBB

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby Zech13 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:00 pm

I recently traded Kittle for Hock/23 2nd in a no te premium league. Other leagues I haven’t found much of a market.

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby Needalife » Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:08 pm

I’m with the others… he’s worth a mid 1st. I think it’s a good time to try and move him too as the Lance shift will potentially generate less productivity.
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QB: Jalen Hurts, Jordan Love, Michael Penix Jr, Kenny Pickett, Sean Clifford
RB: Raheem Mostert, Antonio Gibson, Jaylen Wright, Jeff Wilson
WR: Marvin Harrison Jr, Chris Olave, Jahan Dotson, Gabriel Davis, Wan'Dale Robinson, Darius Slayton
TE: Kyle Pitts, Mike Gesicki, Isaiah Likely, Cade Stover
DL: Montez Sweat, Gregory Rousseau, Ed Oliver, Da'Ron Payne
LB: Devin Lloyd, Christian Harris, Jack Gibbens, Mack Wilson, Jack Sanborn
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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:52 pm

Zech13 wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:00 pm I recently traded Kittle for Hock/23 2nd in a no te premium league. Other leagues I haven’t found much of a market.
Give me the proven stud here. Hock has not proven to be more than a better version of Austin Hooper, Kyle Rudolph, etc (not comparing their styles of play, but more so as NFL producers)
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby Mjvb5 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:01 pm

Id sell for a first. This is a make or break yesr for his value between age, injuries and new qb

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby robinoso » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:57 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:07 am In a vanilla league, Kittle is worth an early 23 First if I’m a contender - in order for me to sell him, that is. Dude is an absolute stud and an elite performer when healthy.

Even as a buyer, in a vanilla league he’s worth a mid First all day long.
I’m dumb, what’s a vanilla league? I have an idea I think
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QB,RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, W/R/T, W/R/T

QB: Herbert, Rodgers, Kyler, Watson, Howell
RB: Bijan, Achane, Barkley, Allgeier, Breida, Gainwell, Strong, Tucker
WR: AJB, Adams, Wilson, Hill, Higgins, Reed, JSN,, T. Marshall, Boutte, Arob, Ross
TE: Pitts, Kincaid, Waller, Bellinger

No 24 or 25 picks other than 4th and 5th each year.

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby JoeJoe88 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:02 am

robinoso wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:57 am
lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:07 am In a vanilla league, Kittle is worth an early 23 First if I’m a contender - in order for me to sell him, that is. Dude is an absolute stud and an elite performer when healthy.

Even as a buyer, in a vanilla league he’s worth a mid First all day long.
I’m dumb, what’s a vanilla league? I have an idea I think
I think he’s referring to non-TE Premium.

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Re: What is Kittle really worth? Overhyped??

Postby The.Big.Spank » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:29 am

He is way too hit or miss for me. I would love him in a best ball, but since Deebo decided to stay healthy he just does not seem to deliver on any kind of consistent basis. I agree he is a stud, but he is not fed like one, so what good does that do me?
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WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
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QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
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