Edge position

[IR1]

Thought there was a thread on edge positions, but couldn’t find it. Does anyone know if MFL has this option and how to activate it? After recent position changes, a couple owners have asked.

[meineymoe]

So far, no edge on mfl.
I recommend adding starters with multiple flex options.
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[problemsolver]

AdamTz who is believe is the non Tom Kislingbury half of Read N React made this tool. It looks like it's been updated recently. I've never used it do I'm not advocating for it. Just telling you it exists

https://stickyposition.herokuapp.com/

[lukkynumber13]

A league I had just joined a few weeks ago just went to "True position".

It SUCKS. IDK why anyone wants it...

It just increases the DE end supply by a ton. We all know 2nd grade economics, right? Supply goes up, demand goes down, VALUE GOES DOWN.

True position just makes DEs less valuable, and it actually increases the value of off-ball run thumpers such as Tremaine Edmunds and CJ Mosely (which are the exact guys that the NFL doesn't value (spoken as a generalization, of course)

[stick3925]

A league I had just joined a few weeks ago just went to "True position".

It SUCKS. IDK why anyone wants it...

It just increases the DE end supply by a ton. We all know 2nd grade economics, right? Supply goes up, demand goes down, VALUE GOES DOWN.

True position just makes DEs less valuable, and it actually increases the value of off-ball run thumpers such as Tremaine Edmunds and CJ Mosely (which are the exact guys that the NFL doesn't value (spoken as a generalization, of course)

Couldn't have said it better myself. I just had to explain this to two owners in my league that were upset about the recent position changes. It's the risk you take with EDGE defenders. It is also the reason I put extra value on productive 4/3 DTs and 3/4 DEs because they won't potentially get moved to LB.

[lukkynumber13]

One of the initial obvious flaws of true position is, unless I missed something, they only change designation for current starters.

Look at all the edge guys who are still LBs

DJ Wonnum, Malik Reed, Jon Cooper, Kenny Wilikes, Melvin Ingram, Uchenna Nwosu, etc

None of the backups got changed

[killer_of_giants]

"true position" has pros and cons, one of the pros being, your DE studs won't become middle of the pack LBs for doing pretty much the same job.

devaluing of the DE position: yeah, you have more bodies. there's still a lot more difference between studs and ok players than there is in other positions (depending on scoring, of course), but their value does go down, and you're more likely to find an apt replacement from waivers (which is already true for LBs and DBs though...).

the point of run thumpers is more against 2 points per tackle kind of scoring than it is true position, if you are a mediocre 100 tackles per season guy, you'll be more valuable than a good outside LB.

i play in leagues with different IDP settings and there's always something that isn't ideal, the blanket is too short.

[lukkynumber13]

There’s no need to have a league where edge players drastically lose value. It’s 100% avoidable.

My two favorite leagues I’m in, they both reward elite pass rushers to where TJ Watt, Myles Garrett, Nick Bosa, etc routinely score just as many points as a top five RB or WR. So in these leagues, when Danielle Hunter, Joey Bosa, etc get moved to LB, it shifts things a bit but even as a LB they’re still a massive part of your lineup as they still score 20 PPG.

[Kcarr]

Yes, you can have scoring set to where a 3-4 olb scores enough to be valuable but if you were sorting players by the job do on the field would tj watt be closer to myles Garrett or Darius leonard? Wouldn't it make more sense to sort the players based on that?

[Kcarr]

Also, even if an edge rushing LB scores up there with the top LBs and and the same as they would at DE they are less valuable than a DE that scores the same because all of the off ball LBs and half of edge rushers are listed at LB while half of the edge rushers and some interior players are all thatvare listed at DE

[killer_of_giants]

There’s no need to have a league where edge players drastically lose value. It’s 100% avoidable.

My two favorite leagues I’m in, they both reward elite pass rushers to where TJ Watt, Myles Garrett, Nick Bosa, etc routinely score just as many points as a top five RB or WR. So in these leagues, when Danielle Hunter, Joey Bosa, etc get moved to LB, it shifts things a bit but even as a LB they’re still a massive part of your lineup as they still score 20 PPG.

could you please tell me the scoring system for those leagues?

Yes, you can have scoring set to where a 3-4 olb scores enough to be valuable but if you were sorting players by the job do on the field would tj watt be closer to myles Garrett or Darius leonard? Wouldn't it make more sense to sort the players based on that?

yeah, philosophically it makes a lot more sense.
maybe it's a bit like ppr: does it make sense that a catch alone is worth 1 point and a negative play can give you positive points? not at all! but they say ppr gives leagues a "better" balance (but it doesn't, it's just a different balance).

[lukkynumber13]

There’s no need to have a league where edge players drastically lose value. It’s 100% avoidable.

My two favorite leagues I’m in, they both reward elite pass rushers to where TJ Watt, Myles Garrett, Nick Bosa, etc routinely score just as many points as a top five RB or WR. So in these leagues, when Danielle Hunter, Joey Bosa, etc get moved to LB, it shifts things a bit but even as a LB they’re still a massive part of your lineup as they still score 20 PPG.

could you please tell me the scoring system for those leagues?

Yes, you can have scoring set to where a 3-4 olb scores enough to be valuable but if you were sorting players by the job do on the field would tj watt be closer to myles Garrett or Darius leonard? Wouldn't it make more sense to sort the players based on that?

yeah, philosophically it makes a lot more sense.
maybe it's a bit like ppr: does it make sense that a catch alone is worth 1 point and a negative play can give you positive points? not at all! but they say ppr gives leagues a "better" balance (but it doesn't, it's just a different balance).

https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2022/ ... 27760&O=09

This is the scoring page on MFL for team A

[killer_of_giants]

cheers mate!