QB importance in 16 man

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QB importance in 16 man

Postby thomasscheeks » Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:17 am

How much value do QB's hold in a 16 man league? I'm doing a startup right now and I'm wondering how early I should take a QB. Obviously they aren't as valuable as SF or 2QB, but it should be close considering there's only 32 starting QB's, right? Is round 2 too early to lock down a young elite QB?
10 Man IDP, .75 ppr, Big Play Bonus, TE Prem, 2 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 34 Keepers (17 off - 17 IDP)
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins

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Re: QB importance in 16 man

Postby zaner75 » Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:42 am

League scoring, starting lineup requirements and team build preference will all play a factor. If you want to feel set at the position long-term, then it makes sense to take one earlier. All decisions at the start of a draft come down to opportunity cost. Personally, I'd rather take an elite QB instead of a RB or WR at/past their age apex. Where that falls in the draft, you have to wait and see how the other managers in your league are drafting. Don't think I'd be the first to pull the trigger. Would hope to get one of the last of the top tier.

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Re: QB importance in 16 man

Postby qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj » Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:08 am

I think you're right on the money when you say they are worth just slightly less than in SF.

To give you an example, I paid Kamara for Mahomes in the DFL premium league 3 or so years ago, and while I was given a lot of flack for it at the time, I haven't regretted it a day since, even with Kamara remaining an upper tier rb.

Having one of the 3 or 4 elite QB options is a big positional difference maker, and not having to worry at all about the position for years is worth the investment in the likes of Mahomes, Allen or say Herbert imo.

I haven't done a startup in that format in a while, but I assume I'd try to get a qb no later than round 3.

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Re: QB importance in 16 man

Postby Paul717 » Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:18 am

thomasscheeks wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:17 am How much value do QB's hold in a 16 man league? I'm doing a startup right now and I'm wondering how early I should take a QB. Obviously they aren't as valuable as SF or 2QB, but it should be close considering there's only 32 starting QB's, right? Is round 2 too early to lock down a young elite QB?
QBs are extremely valuable in a 16 team league. And depending on the scoring system, not having a stud can mean the difference between a Championship team and missing the playoffs.

In a startup I would absolutely not fault you for taking a young stud in Round 2. Bonus, take one that you don't have on any of your other teams. Then, I'd look to get ahead of the next "run" on QBs and grab your second QB who is a locked in starter, even if on the other side of 30. Finally, if you have a chance to grab a THIRD QB who is either a starter or will be, you can weaken another team and potentially cost them a win during bye heavy weeks.

For context in my 16 team league, something like 35-40 QBs are kept every year. And QBs drafted early by NFL teams are typically gone by the middle of our Round 2 at the latest.
"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 :cry: , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions

Picks:
2024: 1.06, 2.06, 4.06, 5.06, 6.06, 7.06, 8.06

Disclaimer: My one and only Championship in this league was way back in 2011. Therefore, take my replies with the appropriate grain of salt. :lol:

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Re: QB importance in 16 man

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:32 am

Its right around or a touch behind 10 tm SF leagues ive found
10 tm SF-20 starters+10 backups=30
16 tm SF-16 starters+16 backups

Additionally around qb 28 overall most year is where you hit thw guys that if your a contender they might work in a pinch this year but anything outside rhat js a dark shot

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Re: QB importance in 16 man

Postby abloom » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:52 pm

They are about as important as a 10 team SF league. Not nearly as important as a 12 team SF league.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: QB importance in 16 man

Postby thomasscheeks » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:50 am

Thanks for the replies everyone. I feel better now about my assumption with their valuation. I won't punt the position
10 Man IDP, .75 ppr, Big Play Bonus, TE Prem, 2 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 34 Keepers (17 off - 17 IDP)
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins


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