Kadarius Toney

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What is buy price for Toney?

Late 1st
7
17%
early 2nd + late 2nd
7
17%
early 2nd
9
21%
mid 2nd
13
31%
I don’t want him on my team
6
14%
 
Total votes: 42

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Kadarius Toney

Postby BabyChark23 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:17 am

What is the most you would be willing to pay for Kadarius Toney? This is assuming you are a competitor who needs more WR depth. Format is 12 Team PPR 2QB.

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby Mtt33 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:08 am

Love toney as a buy but if you’re a contender looking for wr depth I would target more established WRs I think.

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby BradyT » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:14 am

I wouldnt pay a 1st for him, but at the same time I wouldnt accept less.
Early 2nd seems acceptable to pay
24 roster spots - 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex

QB: Herbert,Minshew
RB: Breece,Walker,Taylor,BRobinson,Allgeier,Spiller
WR:Jefferson,Lamb,DJMoore,QJohnston,Jameson,MMims, T.Marshall,Shakir,Gallup
TE: Andrews,Conklin
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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:40 am

dont wanna buy for a first but two seconds i would do. sellers likely wouldnt sell for a single 2nd and want a late first so two 2nds seems like the reasonable response here
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby tsarpepe » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:59 am

I voted "I don't want him on my team."
Red flags are everywhere, and there are 20 guys that could potentially give you the same or better production. Why bother?

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby CGW » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:00 am

Late 1st/early 2nd fringe. His potential is high and he has flashed, so most owners probably are going to be holding tight.

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby murphysxm » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:12 am

Just saw this on twitter. Doesn't sound good

Kadarius Toney is not learning the playbook. He is not building relationships with the new Giants coaching staff. He is not on the field with his teammates. This is all voluntary right now and Toney has volunteered to stay away.
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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby CGW » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:18 am

murphysxm wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:12 am Just saw this on twitter. Doesn't sound good

Kadarius Toney is not learning the playbook. He is not building relationships with the new Giants coaching staff. He is not on the field with his teammates. This is all voluntary right now and Toney has volunteered to stay away.
Immaturity is this guy's biggest enemy, no doubt.

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:22 am

murphysxm wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:12 am Just saw this on twitter. Doesn't sound good

Kadarius Toney is not learning the playbook. He is not building relationships with the new Giants coaching staff. He is not on the field with his teammates. This is all voluntary right now and Toney has volunteered to stay away.
He had issues coming into the league as well. I would not pay more than a mid to late 2nd depending who was available once the pick is otc.

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby sloth8u » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:31 am

BabyChark23 wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:17 am What is the most you would be willing to pay for Kadarius Toney? This is assuming you are a competitor who needs more WR depth. Format is 12 Team PPR 2QB.
As mentioned previously...I'd think there are better options that could be available if your contending. I'd look for a proven guy for those prices. Maybe you hit, maybe you miss...but I'd feel more confident in someone proven, rather than toney if I felt I may need them.

All that said, I own quite a few shares and saw the huge upside. The start has not been promising though. The most unfortunate thing here is that most of his issues seem to be him. He's already a diva wr and hasn't proven a thing. I'm hoping he turns the corner and really not selling unless it's in an upgrade or a pick on the clock. If you really want to own him... If no one's available you like in the clock, maybe the toney owner would swap him for the pick

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:13 am

Given the fact he skipped the voluntary offseason stuff through both his off-seasons, I have moved on. I bought him this past midseason after his breakout for two late 2nd's, but sold him last night for 2.1 & a 2023 2nd (will most likely be 2.1 again as that team is at the very beginning of a long rebuild).
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RB - CMC | Chubb | Dobbins | Keaontay Ingram
WR - McLaurin | Deebo | Waddle | Gabriel Davis | Elijah Moore | Mooney | C Ridley | Jameson Williams | Pickens | Alec Pierce | Wan'dale Robinson | Justyn Ross | B Edwards
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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:55 pm

Just read that he's on the trade block.

Guess the new regime isn't enjoying his decision to stay away from voluntary workouts or something. Maybe he's just not "Their type of guy".

Interesting.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan

14 Team, .5 PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby Mtt33 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:10 pm

Shoreline Steamers wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:55 pm Just read that he's on the trade block.

Guess the new regime isn't enjoying his decision to stay away from voluntary workouts or something. Maybe he's just not "Their type of guy".

Interesting.
Ya pretty bad sign they’re looking to dump him. On the flip side maybe he ends up in a better situation.

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby HughHoney » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:39 pm

Poll is all over the place. Sounds about right. Can understand people being high on him for how he flashed or low because of all the red flags. I wasn’t high on him but he fell to me late 2nd in a couple of drafts. I’m higher than I was but understand why some aren’t.

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Re: Kadarius Toney

Postby TTHTD » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:52 pm

After Olave/Pickens at around 1.09ish I don't see any WRs with even close to the same upside he has in this class so I'd probably draft him with a late 1st 1.10-1.12 if he was in this years draft. I have no idea where these mid-2nd valuations are coming from, who the hell are you taking in the mid 2nd you that has better odds than Toney?


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