Fournette vs Goedert? (context is important)

[bigbuck22]

If you’re not a real contender why would you trade for an aging RB who had trouble separating himself from Ronald jones? In a TE premium league I would think you could get much more for goedert… or at least some younger talent

No other context matters. Goedert is a top 5 TE player in my rankings, LF is a 1-2 year place holder. I don't understand this thought process, you should hold

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I'm left scratching my head about the majority of advice on this topic. Doesn't make sense to me. Goes to show that if you don't own Goedert, you should be buying.

[StripesOfKC]

If you’re not a real contender why would you trade for an aging RB who had trouble separating himself from Ronald jones? In a TE premium league I would think you could get much more for goedert… or at least some younger talent

No other context matters. Goedert is a top 5 TE player in my rankings, LF is a 1-2 year place holder. I don't understand this thought process, you should hold

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I'm left scratching my head about the majority of advice on this topic. Doesn't make sense to me. Goes to show that if you don't own Goedert, you should be buying.

Because Fournette is a consistently productive high RB2 with back end RB1 potential as long as he's in Tampa

Not a "place holder"

[bigbuck22]

No other context matters. Goedert is a top 5 TE player in my rankings, LF is a 1-2 year place holder. I don't understand this thought process, you should hold

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I'm left scratching my head about the majority of advice on this topic. Doesn't make sense to me. Goes to show that if you don't own Goedert, you should be buying.

Because Fournette is a consistently productive high RB2 with back end RB1 potential as long as he's in Tampa

Not a "place holder"

Except the OP isn't a contender.
LF is now the only RB over 25 that I've seen ppl suggest buying.

[StripesOfKC]

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I'm left scratching my head about the majority of advice on this topic. Doesn't make sense to me. Goes to show that if you don't own Goedert, you should be buying.

Because Fournette is a consistently productive high RB2 with back end RB1 potential as long as he's in Tampa

Not a "place holder"

Except the OP isn't a contender.
LF is now the only RB over 25 that I've seen ppl suggest buying.

Because he isn't priced like other equally productive RBs

[Anteaters]

I own Goedert, like him and plan to keep him unless I'm blown away by an offer ... but believe me, he's not the second coming of a TE team changer. He's a very good TE in the TE5-12 range. He'll be TE6 one year, TE 10 the next year, and TE8 the next year. He'll spend the next 5 seasons bouncing around like that just like 8 other guys.

LF can make a real difference on an almost-contending team. If the OP thinks he's so far out of contention, then yeah, pass on this deal for a RB with a 2yr window. But if the OP thinks he's another another piece away from being a serious contender then I say go for it. Goedert isn't the kind of player you hold onto for deal life. He's a good player, fills a good role, but isn't an untouchable foundational piece of a team, not even in TEP.

Not to mention that the OP also has Ertz, who was basically as good as Goedert on a ppg basis. The OP's team won't lose any production in 2022 by starting Ertz instead of Goedert. And who's to say Kmet doesn't improve by a couple of ppg this season and be right behind both.

Bring in Hall with one of the first two picks, and a stud rookie WR with the 1.08, and this team could be a fringe contender in 2022 if those picks hit.

Bottom line: Goedert is expendable on this team.

[murphysxm]

Not to mention that the OP also has Ertz, who was basically as good as Goedert on a ppg basis. The OP's team won't lose any production in 2022 by starting Ertz instead of Goedert. And who's to say Kmet doesn't improve by a couple of ppg this season and be right behind both.

Ertz WAS as good as Goedert, and is now 31. I completely disagree there won't be a production difference in 2022.

[greenbird]

I like both players but Fournette for me. Fournette is so undervalued. Fournette should be a top 5 RB this year.

[murphysxm]

I like both players but Fournette for me. Fournette is so undervalued. Fournette should be a top 5 RB this year.

Crazy talk. LF will be be a safe RB2 with upside. There are more than 5 RB's in th AFC that are better fantasy backs this year than LF.

[StripesOfKC]

I like both players but Fournette for me. Fournette is so undervalued. Fournette should be a top 5 RB this year.

Crazy talk. LF will be be a safe RB2 with upside. There are more than 5 RB's in th AFC that are better fantasy backs this year than LF.

I mean he was literally a top 5 RB last year in PPR PPG

I wouldn't expect it but it's well within his range of outcomes

[abloom]

I like both players but Fournette for me. Fournette is so undervalued. Fournette should be a top 5 RB this year.

Crazy talk. LF will be be a safe RB2 with upside. There are more than 5 RB's in th AFC that are better fantasy backs this year than LF.

Low end RB1 with upside I think you mean.

[abloom]

If you’re not a real contender why would you trade for an aging RB who had trouble separating himself from Ronald jones? In a TE premium league I would think you could get much more for goedert… or at least some younger talent

No other context matters. Goedert is a top 5 TE player in my rankings, LF is a 1-2 year place holder. I don't understand this thought process, you should hold

Pitts
Kelce
Andrews
Waller
Kittle
Hockenson
Shultz
Goeddert

I have goeddert as 8. Certainly I can see you're argument for 5th but that requires everything to go right for goeddert and wrong for the likes of kittle.

I think youre looking at the best case scenario for goeddert and comparing it to the worst case scenario for Fournette.

[oneson9192]

Not to mention that the OP also has Ertz, who was basically as good as Goedert on a ppg basis. The OP's team won't lose any production in 2022 by starting Ertz instead of Goedert. And who's to say Kmet doesn't improve by a couple of ppg this season and be right behind both.

Ertz WAS as good as Goedert, and is now 31. I completely disagree there won't be a production difference in 2022.

I also have Pitts btw

[zaner75]

What's the rush in making this deal in April? Just saw a Rotoworld blurb that TB may consider Hall with in the 1st. If that happens, Fournette's arrow is decidedly down. This seems like a trade that can wait a few months. Personally, I think the time to add vet RBs is just before training camp, not in the spring where you're assuming all of the risk.

[oneson9192]

What's the rush in making this deal in April? Just saw a Rotoworld blurb that TB may consider Hall with in the 1st. If that happens, Fournette's arrow is decidedly down. This seems like a trade that can wait a few months. Personally, I think the time to add vet RBs is just before training camp, not in the spring where you're assuming all of the risk.

Fair question. Honestly part of it is that I know this other owner relies heavily on FantasyPros' "trade value chart" that they release monthly. Today's update (first since he re-signed) saw him jump about 50%, I was trying to get the deal done before he saw that. Silly, I know, but that's how this owner operates.

[murphysxm]

I think youre looking at the best case scenario for goeddert and comparing it to the worst case scenario for Fournette.

There may be some truth to this. I do see Goedert taking a step up this year and I factor that into my thought process. I also am not buying the kool aid that TPA is going to run more this year.