MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

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MW/Sutton vs Picks

1) Mike Williams & Courtland Sutton
10
77%
2) 2023 1st / 2022 2.08 / 2024 2nd
3
23%
 
Total votes: 13

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MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby PhillySpecial » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:29 pm

A rebuild team is looking for draft picks. We are going back and forth on him sending Mike Williams & Sutton for 2023 1st / 2022 2.08 / 2024 2nd. My team is compete now so I am considering the move.

A few notes to add context: This is a ten team league moving to superflex in 2023 so the 2023 picks are gonna be a hot commodity. I also have three 2023 1sts right now. Do I just hoard the 1sts or make a run now?
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.

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Re: MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:31 pm

As long as the 2023 1st looks late, I think the value is close. Williams is not great but he is a nice flex and bye week fill in. Sutton is a gamble but the upside is there. I would not be thrilled with the deal but I also don't think the price is terrible for a contender if you need the depth.

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Re: MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:52 pm

I’m having a hard time moving my 23 first here even for that value which isn’t bad. It’s two top 30 receivers though so it’s good value. I’m holding here unless your positive your a top 3 team
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Re: MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby Mtt33 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:33 pm

Values fine I guess, but 2023 1sts are gold right now, I’d want better for it.

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Re: MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby Disaman74 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:41 pm

I’ll take the picks side. Williams was good at points last year, but I don’t think the chargers know how to properly use him. Sutton is a lotto ticket right now… might be great/might not
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Re: MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby PhillySpecial » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:41 pm

What if the two 2nds are removed and it is just the 1st?
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.

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Re: MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby PhillySpecial » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:08 pm

These 2023 picks are gold! I will sleep on it tonight and leave my final offer at the first and only one second.
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.

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Re: MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby Tripwired » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:22 pm

I'd try to land Sutton, but not Williams. All Williams has done is excel at being inconsistent AF. He's had much better QB play than Sutton, and not much to really show for it outside of a few hot streaks. I'd focus on Sutton if it were me.
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Re: MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby PhillySpecial » Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:58 am

The other owner wants a first and I wouldn’t pay that for Sutton. So essentially I am adding one or two seconds to get Mike Williams. I would send my first which looks to be late based on my roster below and would keep the other two firsts I have which are likely worse teams.
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.

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Re: MW/Sutton vs Picks (Poll)

Postby PhillySpecial » Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:07 am

I decided to decline the deal as he wanted the expected 'best' of the 2023 picks. I have three 2023 1sts and the one he wanted is an expected top 3 pick and too rich for my blood.
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

2024 - 1st. 4th.
2025 - 1st. 4th.


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