Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
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Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
I would like to upgrade from Gesicki to Pitts in a TE premium league ( 2 pts/ rec and 7 point tds). I have 4 22 1sts including the 1.01, 1.03, 1.07 and 1.09. Would Gesicki and the 1.01 be an overpay or not enough?
TEAM 1 - 2016, 2019 Champ
10 Team PPR Super Flex. Start: 1QB + superflex(4 pt pass td's), 2-5RB, 2-5WR, 1-3TE, 1K, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB,
QBs: D. Watson, D. Carr
RBs: A. Eckler, D. Henry, J. Jacobs, JK Dobbins,
WRs: J. Jefferson, ARSB, D. Moore, K Allen D. Johnson, E. Moore,
TEs: K. Pitts, M. Andrews
DLs: C. Wilkins
LBs: F. Zaire
DBs: H. Smith
2023 1.08, 1.10
10 Team PPR Super Flex. Start: 1QB + superflex(4 pt pass td's), 2-5RB, 2-5WR, 1-3TE, 1K, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB,
QBs: D. Watson, D. Carr
RBs: A. Eckler, D. Henry, J. Jacobs, JK Dobbins,
WRs: J. Jefferson, ARSB, D. Moore, K Allen D. Johnson, E. Moore,
TEs: K. Pitts, M. Andrews
DLs: C. Wilkins
LBs: F. Zaire
DBs: H. Smith
2023 1.08, 1.10
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Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
Probably what it will take. If it's not enough, I'd just walk away.
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Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
I could see the 1.01 and Gesicki still not being enough but I think it's a fair offer.
Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
I doubt it’s enough for the format, but it’s worth a shot.
10 Team .5 PPR SF 2TE Premium (1 PPR)
QB: Dak, Richardson, Lance, Levis, Mac, Heinicke, Rush, Minshew, Bagent
RB: Gibbs, James Cook, Charbonnet, Allgeier, Jeff Wilson, Fournette, Damien Harris, Michael Carter, Dowdle, Craig Reynolds, Ty Chandler
WR: Lamb, London, Jeudy, Dotson, Hollywood, Johnston, Rondale, Palmer, Shakir, OBJ, Danny Gray
TE: Dulcich, Chig, Gesicki, Likely, Ferguson, Mayer, Schoonmaker, Moreau, Albert O., Ruckert, Quitoriano
12 Team 1 PPR SF
QB: Richardson, Lance, Love, Corral, Darnold, Lock, Trask, Levis
RB: James Cook, Brian Robinson, Kendre, Deuce, Spiller, Edwards, Penny, McKinnon
WR: Garrett Wilson, DeVonta, Hollywood, Aiyuk, Kirk, Dotson, Hardman, Zay Jones, Tyler Scott
TE: LaPorta, Dulcich, Gesicki, Harrison Bryant, Okonkwo, Tremble, Ruckert, Strange
QB: Dak, Richardson, Lance, Levis, Mac, Heinicke, Rush, Minshew, Bagent
RB: Gibbs, James Cook, Charbonnet, Allgeier, Jeff Wilson, Fournette, Damien Harris, Michael Carter, Dowdle, Craig Reynolds, Ty Chandler
WR: Lamb, London, Jeudy, Dotson, Hollywood, Johnston, Rondale, Palmer, Shakir, OBJ, Danny Gray
TE: Dulcich, Chig, Gesicki, Likely, Ferguson, Mayer, Schoonmaker, Moreau, Albert O., Ruckert, Quitoriano
12 Team 1 PPR SF
QB: Richardson, Lance, Love, Corral, Darnold, Lock, Trask, Levis
RB: James Cook, Brian Robinson, Kendre, Deuce, Spiller, Edwards, Penny, McKinnon
WR: Garrett Wilson, DeVonta, Hollywood, Aiyuk, Kirk, Dotson, Hardman, Zay Jones, Tyler Scott
TE: LaPorta, Dulcich, Gesicki, Harrison Bryant, Okonkwo, Tremble, Ruckert, Strange
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Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
I honestly would prefer Gesecki and 1.01, myself. I do't think Pitts will be that much of and advantage that he's worth missing on Hall, or the haul (sorry for the bad pun), the 1.01 will net you.
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Habaneros make the best tasting hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".
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Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
Ok but not enough for pitts
TEAM 1
12 Team Half PPR Superflex ..1Qb , 2Rb, 3Wr,1 Te, 2Flex 1Superflex 1Def
QBs: Dak,PenixBurrow
RBS: Bijan,Kamara,GibsonDillon,Penny,Ty Chandler,
WR:Lamb,Chase,AJB,Tee,DJM,Boyd
TE McBride,Geseiki
DEF Eagles, Broncos,
12 Team Half PPR Superflex ..1Qb , 2Rb, 3Wr,1 Te, 2Flex 1Superflex 1Def
QBs: Dak,PenixBurrow
RBS: Bijan,Kamara,GibsonDillon,Penny,Ty Chandler,
WR:Lamb,Chase,AJB,Tee,DJM,Boyd
TE McBride,Geseiki
DEF Eagles, Broncos,
Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
Depends on Pitts manager, I would need more. I would assume in that format he was drafted extremely high, close to 1.01, in a better rookie draft class than this year. He then went for the second most receiving yards ever for a rookie TE at age 20/21. Gesicki is 5 years older, less productive and to me is just a guy. Personally would not be close but I guess depends on their team needs.
Team 1
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Swift, Estime, Irving Foreman, Mattison
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, McMillan, Palmer, Douglas
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, All, Wiley
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Curl, Sainristil
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Swift, Estime, Irving Foreman, Mattison
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, McMillan, Palmer, Douglas
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, All, Wiley
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Curl, Sainristil
Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
Gesicki doesn't really do much for me, and I think whoever is taken at 1.01 is behind Pitts in the start up. So I think you're looking at gesicki, 1.01 and either the 1.07 or 1.10 for Pitts.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
with this level premium 1.01 likely isn’t enough for Pitts and gesicki wouldn’t move the needle I imagine.
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Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
Maybe it's because I own Pitts, but this is what I was thinking too. How do we know Hall does not get drafted by Houston in the top of the second. In my experience the NFL draft disappoints with landing spots way more than it brings joy.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
It's not because you own Pitts (though that's easy for me to say because I also have a share of Pitts). I'm looking at it from a pure value standpoint.The.Big.Spank wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:01 amMaybe it's because I own Pitts, but this is what I was thinking too. How do we know Hall does not get drafted by Houston in the top of the second. In my experience the NFL draft disappoints with landing spots way more than it brings joy.
Pitts is going in the first round of startups of TE premiums or at worst begining of the second round. I don't think any rookie will be taken that high in startups which means that the 1.01 is less valuable than Pitts.
Since gesicki isn't part of the top 6 TEs he's basically interchangeable with all other TEs for me.
I don't think I'd pay the 1.01, 1.03 and gesicki for Pitts but the 1.07 or 1.10 ontop of the 1.01 seems most reasonable.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
Not to mention this isn’t a (mostly meaningless) 0.5 premium, it’s a full Ppr which makes TEs flexible and has a massive impact. Many people would argue pitts is the #1 non qb in this format (not me but only a few ahead of him).abloom wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:47 amIt's not because you own Pitts (though that's easy for me to say because I also have a share of Pitts). I'm looking at it from a pure value standpoint.The.Big.Spank wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:01 amMaybe it's because I own Pitts, but this is what I was thinking too. How do we know Hall does not get drafted by Houston in the top of the second. In my experience the NFL draft disappoints with landing spots way more than it brings joy.
Pitts is going in the first round of startups of TE premiums or at worst begining of the second round. I don't think any rookie will be taken that high in startups which means that the 1.01 is less valuable than Pitts.
Since gesicki isn't part of the top 6 TEs he's basically interchangeable with all other TEs for me.
I don't think I'd pay the 1.01, 1.03 and gesicki for Pitts but the 1.07 or 1.10 ontop of the 1.01 seems most reasonable.
Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
Gesicki, 1.01 and 1.03 is most likely what you'd have to offer to have even have a shot a Pitts. At that rate I'd hold on to the assets.
Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
Double TEP?? Gesicki+1.01 isn't in the ballpark here. Likely need to add the 1.03.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Re: Gesicki to Pitts What Does It Take?
Most Pitts owners arent going to take Gesicki and the 1.01 in a standard league. In 2TEP, it's going to require a significant overpay, and likely not worth the price at this point.