My guy Hall was stiff you have to drop him down...DynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:49 pm Pretty sure Hall solidified himself as the early 1.01.
Lot of solid wrs as expected but it's hard to say any separated themselves from the pack. Disappointed in some of the big names, and other lesser prospects really over performed expectations. With such a deep class I find it hard to justify taking a wr with a high 1st when rbs are so scarce and the wr market so diluted.
Hall should be hands down the 1.01. He's still 20, is a top percentile athlete, and has the production numbers to boot. He's doesn't quite have JT's profile, because JT's production is insane, but he's definitely in the vicinity. He does have a better receiving profile, than JT out of college, thouhg. I can't see how anybody else should be considered 1.01 right now, personally. I'd easily put him ahead of guys like Javonte Williams, Akers, ETN etc.DynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:49 pm Pretty sure Hall solidified himself as the early 1.01.
Lot of solid wrs as expected but it's hard to say any separated themselves from the pack. Disappointed in some of the big names, and other lesser prospects really over performed expectations. With such a deep class I find it hard to justify taking a wr with a high 1st when rbs are so scarce and the wr market so diluted.
I think rookie fever is hitting hard and would be a seller at #1 this year if the Hall hype goes wild. He did test better athletically than I would have thought, but am still ho hum about him. Possibly the top RB in the class, but not elite and shouldn't even be in the same post as JT (Iknow, not your post but the one earlier).DynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:33 am I can't say I'm a college football fan or a tape grinder, I mostly just follow for dynasty purposes. I read a ton of analysis and watch highlights, read profiles, comparables, etc. Call me crazy but I think hall is a better prospect then harris from last year.
As a steeler fan and dynasty owner I love harris, and he is a better blocker then hall. But outside of that hall has all the boxes checked that najee left empty for me.
Najee too old for a rookie, already 23.
Hall is only 20, absoluteky dominted all 3 years
Najee only looked good because he played for Alabama and had an nfl caliber oline playing agaisnt children
Hall played at Iowa, not bad but certainly not a powerhouse
Najee lacks top end speed, doesn't break big runs
Hall ran a 4.39, often showed speed and burst
I'm excited to pair Hall with najee on my squad. Only box he doesn't check for me is pass blocking, its mediocre and probably good enough to stay on the field but not elite. Hopefully can be coached up but cmc wasnt a great pass blocker when he exploded and niether was hunt. My only fear is Hall will go to a crap team, kind of like swift in Detroit. However I think we can all day we would take swift in Detroit over ceh and his prime landing spot in hind sight. I wish he can sneak into the back of the 1st, to a team like Tampa or Buffalo. If not hopefully someone moves up to get him early 2nd like Arizona or Seattle and spares us the pain of the giants taking a rb to sit behind barkley and a crap team/line.
Love your enthusiasm about Hall… but he went to Iowa State, not Iowa. Big differenceDynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:33 am I can't say I'm a college football fan or a tape grinder, I mostly just follow for dynasty purposes. I read a ton of analysis and watch highlights, read profiles, comparables, etc. Call me crazy but I think hall is a better prospect then harris from last year.
As a steeler fan and dynasty owner I love harris, and he is a better blocker then hall. But outside of that hall has all the boxes checked that najee left empty for me.
Najee too old for a rookie, already 23.
Hall is only 20, absoluteky dominted all 3 years
Najee only looked good because he played for Alabama and had an nfl caliber oline playing agaisnt children
Hall played at Iowa, not bad but certainly not a powerhouse
Najee lacks top end speed, doesn't break big runs
Hall ran a 4.39, often showed speed and burst
I'm excited to pair Hall with najee on my squad. Only box he doesn't check for me is pass blocking, its mediocre and probably good enough to stay on the field but not elite. Hopefully can be coached up but cmc wasnt a great pass blocker when he exploded and niether was hunt. My only fear is Hall will go to a crap team, kind of like swift in Detroit. However I think we can all day we would take swift in Detroit over ceh and his prime landing spot in hind sight. I wish he can sneak into the back of the 1st, to a team like Tampa or Buffalo. If not hopefully someone moves up to get him early 2nd like Arizona or Seattle and spares us the pain of the giants taking a rb to sit behind barkley and a crap team/line.
Agree to disagree on Hall being elite. I just don't see it when I watch him. He seems to be a good enough athlete at the combine for now. We'll see about agility scores as I haven't seen anything listed for RBs. I don't see elite athleticism or RB traits on tape. I see a solid RB that you could find on any number of teams. Not bad, but not elite. I also noticed he didn't have any very good games against the ranked teams. Most RBs stats are less against the best teams, but usually elite RBs still have good games and eventually break out in the big games.DynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:03 am Ok fixed the Iowa vs Iowa state.
Yes a good school , just saying we always downplay Alabama players because of the program and the level of talent around them. I don't recall ever discounting Iowa state players because we believe its the team around them and question how much of it is the prospects talent vs product of the system.
Comparing him to JT is absurd. He is easily the 1.01 in startups and redraft and was an elite prospect himself. That's like saying you can call a wr elite because they're not chase, there is a difference between generational and elite. To me hall is not a generational talent like barkley was, although we all see how that's turning out, but he most definitely elite with his measurables and production.
From what I am reading, none of the rbs did the agility drills because the people running the combine are incompetent morons and want the 40 during prime time and so have the agility drills scheduled for midnight or something close to itmgscott wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:12 amAgree to disagree on Hall being elite. I just don't see it when I watch him. He seems to be a good enough athlete at the combine for now. We'll see about agility scores as I haven't seen anything listed for RBs. I don't see elite athleticism or RB traits on tape. I see a solid RB that you could find on any number of teams. Not bad, but not elite. I also noticed he didn't have any very good games against the ranked teams. Most RBs stats are less against the best teams, but usually elite RBs still have good games and eventually break out in the big games.DynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:03 am Ok fixed the Iowa vs Iowa state.
Yes a good school , just saying we always downplay Alabama players because of the program and the level of talent around them. I don't recall ever discounting Iowa state players because we believe its the team around them and question how much of it is the prospects talent vs product of the system.
Comparing him to JT is absurd. He is easily the 1.01 in startups and redraft and was an elite prospect himself. That's like saying you can call a wr elite because they're not chase, there is a difference between generational and elite. To me hall is not a generational talent like barkley was, although we all see how that's turning out, but he most definitely elite with his measurables and production.
Should have been more clear - it matters for those who went to Iowa State when Iowa is our in-state rival. Don’t you dare assign our good players to that other school!DynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:03 am Ok fixed the Iowa vs Iowa state.
Yes a good school , just saying we always downplay Alabama players because of the program and the level of talent around them. I don't recall ever discounting Iowa state players because we believe its the team around them and question how much of it is the prospects talent vs product of the system.
Comparing him to JT is absurd. He is easily the 1.01 in startups and redraft and was an elite prospect himself. That's like saying you can call a wr elite because they're not chase, there is a difference between generational and elite. To me hall is not a generational talent like barkley was, although we all see how that's turning out, but he most definitely elite with his measurables and production.
I apologize, Pitt vs Penn state here so understood.Shcritters wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:05 amShould have been more clear - it matters for those who went to Iowa State when Iowa is out in-state rival. Don’t you dare assign our good players to that other school!DynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:03 am Ok fixed the Iowa vs Iowa state.
Yes a good school , just saying we always downplay Alabama players because of the program and the level of talent around them. I don't recall ever discounting Iowa state players because we believe its the team around them and question how much of it is the prospects talent vs product of the system.
Comparing him to JT is absurd. He is easily the 1.01 in startups and redraft and was an elite prospect himself. That's like saying you can call a wr elite because they're not chase, there is a difference between generational and elite. To me hall is not a generational talent like barkley was, although we all see how that's turning out, but he most definitely elite with his measurables and production.
Although I agree with this on a prospect level coming out of school, its hard to do that agaisnt guys that already have nfl production.
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