Kcarr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:59 pm
dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:23 am
dondickenson wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:41 am
Nothing really impressive from the WRs yesterday. Recent super athletes to come out like Chase(4.38, 41” vert, 132” broad) and DK(4.33, 40.5”, 134”) make this class look pedestrian, as expected by devy players. Out of the top 2022 guys…
Burks(4.55, 33”, 122”)
Wilson(4.38, 36”, 123”)
Olave(4.39, 32”, 124”)
Pickens(4.47, 33”, 125”)
Moore(4.41, 34.5”, 125”)
Dotson(4.43, 36”, 121”)
Bell(4.65, 33”, 118”)
None stand out. But testing isn’t everything, AJ Brown(4.49, 36.5”, 120”) was quite underwhelming compared to DK, and lines up more with many of the 2022 guys performances, albeit at 6’ 225+.
Their short splits matter more to teams, as well as 3 cone, but less guys will likely run 3 cone than did the 40.
And watching the route and catching drills I agree Wilson looks like the alpha of the combine, but I think Sky Moore and Pickens also did themselves big favors here. Overall though, combine for the WRs just isn’t that important. Bad, or at least average, metrics can be overcome at the position more than at others.
Looking forward to seeing the RBs, some of the combine metrics matter a lot more for them than the WRs.
I don't think a bunch of guys in the 4.4s is evidence of this class being pedestrian. I really feel like you're taking this narrative too far. It's not an elite class, but there's a lot of guys.
But they tested worse than probably the freakiest athlete at the position right now and probably the best prospect in years with a hand timed 40, probably not worth drafting any of them
Electronic timed 40. And the list of athletic WRs better than this class is a long one.
Here are some guys from the past several drafts(definitely not an exhaustive list) that weren’t better prospects but were clearly better athletes than any of the top 2022s listed above…
DK
Chase
DJ Chark(4.33, 40”, 129”)
DJ Moore(4.42, 39.5”, 132”)
Darius Slayton(4.39, 40.5”, 135”)
Parris Campbell(4.31, 40”, 135”)
Miles Boykin(4.42, 43.5”, 140”)
Donovan Peoples-Jones(4.48, 44.5”, 139”)
Henry Ruggs(4.27, 42”, 131”)
Jalen Raegor(4.47, 42”, 138”)
Chase Claypool(4.42, 40.5”, 126”)
Rondale Moore(4.28, 42.5”, )
Kadarius Toney(4.39, 39.5”, 136”)
Not being a freak athlete doesn’t preclude any of the top 2022s from becoming elite WRs - J Jeff, AJ Brown, Deebo, Kupp, Hopkins, Adams, and on and on didn’t test off the charts. But elite athleticism does correlate with success to a degree, and let’s not pretend the combine was impressive or bumped the stock of any of the top 2022 WRs.
Instead, later guys like Sky Moore, George Pickens, and, reviewing the numbers, Christian Watson(!) benefited the most. Watson was THE lone freak athlete yesterday. At
6’4 208 he ran 4.36, jumped 38.5” vertical and 136” broad. If I learned anything from the WRs at the combine it would be to keep an eye on these later guys, Watson especially.
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And now today, the RBs measured up real nice except for Kyren Williams. Can’t wait to get some speed scores from them
I was thinking the same thing when I read that.
