Early 2022 RB Rankings

[Pullo Vision]

Not mad at Henry being that high still. His value for a contender is still right there imo. My list is ‘overall value’.

That is fair at 28 he is already well outside my comfort zone for RB age. Those numbers though, all depends on your risk aversion.

If you're projecting him to come back from injury and put up big numbers for a year or two, it's hard to put him low. In my mind, he's not far from CMC- there's risk, but big potential for the short term.

[nathanq42]

Are we really putting CEH (and Jacobs/Monty) with guys that are coming off of catastrophic injuries? (ETN, Carson, Akers, Jrob) I know he hasn't been great but C'mon...

[Shcritters]

Are we really putting CEH (and Jacobs/Monty) with guys that are coming off of catastrophic injuries? (ETN, Carson, Akers, Jrob) I know he hasn't been great but C'mon...

I am. I want nothing to do with him. He’s shown no burst, no ability to break tackles, only gets what’s blocked, isn’t even an average pass blocker, and other RB’s in KC have done more with the same touches. He’s an absolute sell for me, and an absolute waste of a draft pick for KC.

Imagine JT in KC… who they passed on to take CEH. Mahomes is a heck of a QB… but talent evaluator? Not so much.

[Maglio74]

Someone earlier earlier was dissing Monty. Whoever it was obviously hasn’t seem too many Chicago games. Monty never leaves the field. I’ll take him over Chubb10 out of 10 times because of this. Fields will develop too and the scoring will come.

[nathanq42]

Are we really putting CEH (and Jacobs/Monty) with guys that are coming off of catastrophic injuries? (ETN, Carson, Akers, Jrob) I know he hasn't been great but C'mon...

I am. I want nothing to do with him. He’s shown no burst, no ability to break tackles, only gets what’s blocked, isn’t even an average pass blocker, and other RB’s in KC have done more with the same touches. He’s an absolute sell for me, and an absolute waste of a draft pick for KC.

Imagine JT in KC… who they passed on to take CEH. Mahomes is a heck of a QB… but talent evaluator? Not so much.

I guess we will have to disagree on his effectiveness. I agree he has been a bust so far based on draft position, but you make it sound like he has been a laquon Treadwell level player since entering the league.

You have him in a tier with guys that may never play at a high level again (Carson may retire and lis franc and Achilles injuries have been notoriously hard to come back from

[FantasyFreak]

Are we really putting CEH (and Jacobs/Monty) with guys that are coming off of catastrophic injuries? (ETN, Carson, Akers, Jrob) I know he hasn't been great but C'mon...

Nope. Carson, Akers, J Rob, ETN I have well below Jacobs for instance. Jacobs and Monty I believe were undervalued going into this year, being in the early 20's of RB's. Everybody was afraid of Drake, I told them not to be with Jacobs. I projected a back end RB1 season from Josh, and that's what he gave. He's a safe bet. 23, back to back RB1 seasons (for the FF season, which is what matters). I don't know how Carson is even in the same discussion as Monty and JJ, to be honest.

[C_n_red_again]

Seeing how bad freeman Murry and bell looked for Baltimore and how great dobbins looked last time he played makes me feel like all the posters are a wee bit low on dobbins. When healthy I think he’s going to put up nice numbers. And now we know if lamar is out their backup is capable as well

[BabyChark23]

Are we really putting CEH (and Jacobs/Monty) with guys that are coming off of catastrophic injuries? (ETN, Carson, Akers, Jrob) I know he hasn't been great but C'mon...

I am. I want nothing to do with him. He’s shown no burst, no ability to break tackles, only gets what’s blocked, isn’t even an average pass blocker, and other RB’s in KC have done more with the same touches. He’s an absolute sell for me, and an absolute waste of a draft pick for KC.

Imagine JT in KC… who they passed on to take CEH. Mahomes is a heck of a QB… but talent evaluator? Not so much.

I guess we will have to disagree on his effectiveness. I agree he has been a bust so far based on draft position, but you make it sound like he has been a laquon Treadwell level player since entering the league.

You have him in a tier with guys that may never play at a high level again (Carson may retire and lis franc and Achilles injuries have been notoriously hard to come back from

I’d take CEH over Carson or JRob, but give me Etienne or Akers over CEH. I’d rather gamble on the upside for those two. CEH is not terrible, but he isn’t great. He is a low end RB2.

[Pullo Vision]

Seeing how bad freeman Murry and bell looked for Baltimore and how great dobbins looked last time he played makes me feel like all the posters are a wee bit low on dobbins. When healthy I think he’s going to put up nice numbers. And now we know if lamar is out their backup is capable as well

Yep, Dobbins is another guy I'll include the next time I post rankings.

[honcho55]

Seeing how bad freeman Murry and bell looked for Baltimore and how great dobbins looked last time he played makes me feel like all the posters are a wee bit low on dobbins. When healthy I think he’s going to put up nice numbers. And now we know if lamar is out their backup is capable as well

Agree, I put him at RB12 and this that’s the highest on the thread.

Are we really putting CEH (and Jacobs/Monty) with guys that are coming off of catastrophic injuries? (ETN, Carson, Akers, Jrob) I know he hasn't been great but C'mon...

If you haven’t done it with KC by now, are ya gonna do it? I don’t hate him, he’s just consistently too much in all my leagues/formats.

[yinzername]

If you haven’t done it with KC by now, are ya gonna do it? I don’t hate him, he’s just consistently too much in all my leagues/formats.

I don’t think this is a fair take for one rookie season followed by one of KC’s worst performances, and O-lines, in recent years…

[nathanq42]

Obviously lots of flaws in yards per carry/reception/touch buuuuuut I do like to use yards per touch as a general gague of a player's overall efficiency

With that said CEH isn't spectacular, but also not terrible

Career yards per touch:
CEH 4.9
Barkley 5.2
Mixon 4.6 (4.5 this year in his breakout season)
Dalvin cook 5.3
Henry 5.1
Chubb 5.6
Najee 4.4
Swift 5.3
JT 5.7
Kamara 5.9
Ekeler 6.3
Akers 4.8

Obviously he is in the lower end of the distribution, not going to argue that, he hasn't been an all-star. But he isn't wildly ineffective on a per touch basis, just really low TD numbers. I think his usage or lack thereof has been discussed extensively and I think what makes most sense is the reason why BUF has put out warm bodies at RB the last couple of seasons, why take the ball out of your superstar QBs hands? Why take the ball out of Mahomes hands? I don't think CEH is the kind of guy that only gets what is blocked, did you see his last TD? Stood up at the line, delivered an absolute whollopping to the LB, spun away from the pile and snuck into the endzone. I do think however when I drafted him I thought KC would be more balanced to force the defense to respect the run while having to deal with Mahomes, and I thought CEH would get more than scraps as a receiver. I think this last part goes to Mahomes hero style of play and ego, he has been hyped up so much it seems like he has really focussed on on how he wins, not winning itself, with the questionable deep ball decisions and now failing attempts at his no look side arm passes. I thought CEH would be he perfect safety net for that offense, you got Hill taking the top off, Kelce abusing mismatches and of all else fails CEH *should* be open somewhere with the amount of attention the other two command, with his shiftiness in space he could really do some damage as a receiver out of the backfield but Mahomes is too good/stubborn to give up on the big play to take what is given it seems.

Should I have drafted CEH over JT? No. But I didn't expect this level of dominance and usage from Taylor, especially as a pass catcher, and I didn't expect this absolutely puzzling usage of CEH.

Obviously Andy Reid is better than me at everything football related and he sees CEH play everyday, so maybe his usage is warranted and we both were duped, but I think a lot of CEH's struggles are out of his control (can't force the ball to come his way) and inflated (not amazing, but he is more than just a guy plodding for whatever is blocked, not to mention the blocking in KC is bleep)

[BabyChark23]

If you haven’t done it with KC by now, are ya gonna do it? I don’t hate him, he’s just consistently too much in all my leagues/formats.

I don’t think this is a fair take for one rookie season followed by one of KC’s worst performances, and O-lines, in recent years…

In early November PFF ranked KC’s o-line as the second best in the league.

[yinzername]

If you haven’t done it with KC by now, are ya gonna do it? I don’t hate him, he’s just consistently too much in all my leagues/formats.

I don’t think this is a fair take for one rookie season followed by one of KC’s worst performances, and O-lines, in recent years…

In early November PFF ranked KC’s o-line as the second best in the league.

And finished 7th, huh. Guess I heard much worse hyperbole from in game announcers, and went on that

Still, all things considered, felt like a bit of an uneven season. I get moving on from CEH, but i’d hold a 3rd year unless someone was overpaying

[Cameron Giles]

Are we really putting CEH (and Jacobs/Monty) with guys that are coming off of catastrophic injuries? (ETN, Carson, Akers, Jrob) I know he hasn't been great but C'mon...

So far CEH looks like a guy who happens to play with Mahomes and happens to be coached by Andy Reid. That's not a good thing for his long-term outlook because he is too situation dependent. My guess is if he ever leaves KC, his value tanks. He hasn't really excelled at anything (which isn't completely his fault):

He rarely has big rushing games: 4 games of 100+ rushing yards. 3 games of 20+ carries

He rarely has big receiving games: 3 games of 5+ receptions. 2 games of 50+ receiving yards.

He looks like a replaceable RB in a great situation, that hasn't been as great the past two seasons.