The Dalvin Cook Discussion Thread

[murphysxm]

So legitmate question, how come we haven't heard from the other person, the guest? I would think they could clear some things up

[dynastyninja]

So legitmate question, how come we haven't heard from the other person, the guest? I would think they could clear some things up

I'd imagine there's much more information to come, just hasn't been made public yet. Police likely have spoken to the guest by now.

[BlackOmega]

So legitmate question, how come we haven't heard from the other person, the guest? I would think they could clear some things up

If the guest {or guests as some reports have said} has any brains at all, they'll simply provide info to police and lawyers as necessary and stay as far away from any camera or public statement as they can!

[Jigga94]

So legitmate question, how come we haven't heard from the other person, the guest? I would think they could clear some things up

Wouldn't said guest be a friend of Dalvins? I'm not sure his testament would be 100% truthful

[murphysxm]

So legitmate question, how come we haven't heard from the other person, the guest? I would think they could clear some things up

Wouldn't said guest be a friend of Dalvins? I'm not sure his testament would be 100% truthful

it's been awhile, said guest could be a bud, an ex girlfriend, lots of possibilities. To your point, yes the story the tell may be jaded one way or another.

[Jigga94]

So legitmate question, how come we haven't heard from the other person, the guest? I would think they could clear some things up

Wouldn't said guest be a friend of Dalvins? I'm not sure his testament would be 100% truthful

it's been awhile, said guest could be a bud, an ex girlfriend, lots of possibilities. To your point, yes the story the tell may be jaded one way or another.

Yeah I keep forgetting this was all a year ago. Which clouds everything more to me. Why didn't it all come out then??

[Mephistopheles]

Wouldn't said guest be a friend of Dalvins? I'm not sure his testament would be 100% truthful

it's been awhile, said guest could be a bud, an ex girlfriend, lots of possibilities. To your point, yes the story the tell may be jaded one way or another.

Yeah I keep forgetting this was all a year ago. Which clouds everything more to me. Why didn't it all come out then??

From what I've seen, it did. It was reported to the police and to the NFL at that time and both determined it was a big nothing-burger...

But it resurfaced now, a year later, when the lady made it public and filed a lawsuit against Cook, and Cook's lawyer issued a public statement calling it a money grab and that Cook was the victim, then of being assaulted in his own home, and now of extortion.

Honestly I don't know what to believe, but this reminds me of a few years ago when people jumped to conclusions when there was supposedly a video of Dez Bryant in a Wal Mart parking lot. I'll hold off let the courts (if applicable) and the league determine what is the case.

[cazzie33]

Purely opinion on my part but my hypothesis is Cook received demand for hush money and his legal team wanted to get ahead of the situation so did a pre-emptive lawsuit. Create a he said / she said knowing that these pictures & messages are out there. Perhaps a strategy that is good in a court of law but in the court of public opinion the evidence isn’t looking good for Dalvin. Especially in today’s climate where the new NFL has become a-woke culture conscience

I hate the gentrification of the word "woke".

What's "woke" about holding someone accountable for beating a woman, if it's proven that they beat a woman?

Nothing in the context you used the word in your question. The reality is "woke: is also commonly used to vilify individuals without any evidence at all.

I hate the words "safe space" as an example but I guess we both have to live with them until Groovy or Confab comes back or some new phrase comes along and pushes these terms to the side.

The good news is it will happen!

Purposely left it open for interpretation to see what discussion would be had. Society is divided into separate camps where “woke” culture is long overdue & others where they long for “simpler days “ and are weary of the “cancel culture” .

My view is always wait until the facts are known or at least as much as can be known before jumping to conclusions. Said as much when everybody almost had Tyreek banned for life. Assuming I condone Dalvin’s “alleged” act is what you wanted to read into it. I merely stated the new NFL is far more image conscious and wanting to distance themselves from their past image of covering up the old “boys will be boys” that covered for STAR players off the field escapades.

As a father of 3 daughters Dalvin would need to be worried about more than what will the NFL do to him. As for Tyreek I heard the audio where he told his child’s mother that she “needs to be afraid of him “ and traded him away for whatever anyone wanted to give in the next 48 hrs. Turned out to be a mid 3rd so we did the deal. Since then he’s stayed out of trouble and done some fine things in the community so hoping he’s turned the corner & learned from his experiences . Hill didn’t offer a buyout / hush money deal to make his problems go away (as far as we know) and there wasn’t enough evidence to support child abuse allegations. He got counseling and all we can do is hope he was sincere. Not a fan of his but he’s allowed to play & that’s what it is.

If that had happened today he’d be on team pd leave or commish exempt list like Watson.Deshaun hasn’t been convicted of anything (yet) but it’s a new NFL was all I was pointing out

[Krypto_King]

no one has asked if he'll ever play again? the selective outrage is so real

[FantasyFreak]

no one has asked if he'll ever play again? the selective outrage is so real

How so? Every situation is different. This isn't the same situation as Watson, or Hill for example. Also, some may be more wary to jump to conclusions and what the results may be after something like the Hill incident. Not sure who you're pointing fingers at, here, or why.

[Krypto_King]

no one has asked if he'll ever play again? the selective outrage is so real

How so? Every situation is different. This isn't the same situation as Watson, or Hill for example. Also, some may be more wary to jump to conclusions and what the results may be after something like the Hill incident. Not sure who you're pointing fingers at, here, or why.

generally, I hate hypocrisy and I am bummed my point isn't super obvious. I do believe all those itt so far do actually wait to jump to conclusions and I respect that, they are not my target.

[Mr. Wizard]

I play in a salary cap league and I've got Dalvin Cook currently on the franchise tag. I could free up a little room by offering him an extension, which would keep him on my team for four more years rather than just this upcoming one. I'm fairly certain that by the end of that, like in 2025, it'd be ugly money, but if one supposes he could be a valued starter on a contending roster for another 2-3 years, might be worth it to just commit and worry about bad money three years from now when that arrives. That's currently what I'm doing with Derrick Henry, so that's either a reason not to do it with Dalvin too, or to just go "in for a penny, in for a pound" and lock them both up through the end, basically.

Really, the question is more if we feel the guy is gonna go Gurley right off a cliff in the next season or two, so I wanted to take the community's pulse on his lifespan.

[Anteaters]

I predict Dalvin has already played his final season that ends with him being a RB1. At most, he has one more RB1 season remaining. He may have two seasons where his ppg are top12, but I don't predict any more seasons where he ends in the T12 on total points. For instance, in 2021, Dalvin finished RB14 in total points, but RB9 for ppg.

The question is not whether you should get out, but can you get enough so that getting out is your best option? Often we have to hold a declining RB because the offers are so low it makes sense to hold and hope for one more difference-making season.

If I received a good offer, I'd take it and run. Otherwise, hope you are truly contending - then his ppg performance might be enough to help you if you're still contending/playing in the final weeks & playoffs. But if I'm not a contender or if I'm a pretender (and I know it) then I'm trying hard to move Dalvin.

[Mjvb5]

1.5 years would be my bet. Hes been a fairly injured running back through his career and I dont expect itll get easier at 27/8/9. Saying that I think he'll be useable for a good chunk of this but I dont think RB1

[Yarnith]

As with the above, considering his injury history if you got 1 more solid RB1 out of him you did good. I would not extend him for 4 more years. Henry is a unicorn and an absolute best case for RB's over 25. Laveon Bell and Melvin Gordan are far more likely results and really should be where your eyes are for measuring.