Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby abloom » Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:58 am

Draftnik wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:17 pm He will probably be playing again in a year or so.
Athletes get special treatment and I wouldn't be surprised if a Donte Stallworth type result happened (DUI Manslaughter with minimal prison time).

Don't drop him.
Not the same situation at all.

Stalworth hit a man jaywalking in early morning hours. He plead to a lesser charge after also reaching an agreement with the family.

Ruggs hit another car. It will be easier for a DA to believe he can get a conviction. There was enough concern that atleast one jury member would believe that stalworth couldn't have done anything different and resulted in a hing jury.
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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby steelman » Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:03 am

Has any player ever missed 3 years then returned to be fantasy relevant? Because I don't see any chance in hell he plays again within the next 3 years.

Even an early guilty plea can be a year long process. Then add jail time, which he will get unless he beats the charges, which is unlikely.

I doubt he ever plays again.

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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:23 am

steelman wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:03 am Has any player ever missed 3 years then returned to be fantasy relevant? Because I don't see any chance in hell he plays again within the next 3 years.

Even an early guilty plea can be a year long process. Then add jail time, which he will get unless he beats the charges, which is unlikely.

I doubt he ever plays again.
Vick is the only one I can think of, but I don't think he missed 3 years. Alex Smith missed less as well

Josh Gordon and Tim Tebow on the other hand...

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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby PR0v3 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:31 am

He was going 156 mph with a .161 BAC.

Lock him up for good.
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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby murphysxm » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:34 am

PR0v3 wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:31 am He was going 156 mph
Wait, really?
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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby PR0v3 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:40 am

murphysxm wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:34 am
PR0v3 wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:31 am He was going 156 mph
Wait, really?
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status ... 47270?s=21
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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby BlackOmega » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:53 am

PR0v3 wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:40 am
murphysxm wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:34 am
PR0v3 wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:31 am He was going 156 mph
Wait, really?
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status ... 47270?s=21
If that is indeed the case and he gets convicted I would expect more than the 2 year minimum as a sentence

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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby murphysxm » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:57 am

BlackOmega wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:53 am
If that is indeed the case and he gets convicted I would expect more than the 2 year minimum as a sentence
He deserves more than 2 years if this is accurate
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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby dustyroads » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:58 am

Not that he needs anything else piled on cause it sounds like a long jail sentence regardless, but also reading they found a loaded gun in the car.

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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:00 am

156, twice the blood alcohol level, and a loaded gun

Yeah, he's not going to get off on a Stallworth deal. It's probably going to be years of prison time.

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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby Mephistopheles » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:27 am

BlackOmega wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:53 am
PR0v3 wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:40 am
murphysxm wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:34 am

Wait, really?
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status ... 47270?s=21
If that is indeed the case and he gets convicted I would expect more than the 2 year minimum as a sentence
He's charged with DUI with serious bodily harm (for the injuries to his GF) AND reckless driving with death (for the other driver). The penalties are 1-6 years AND 2-20 years, respectively so he's looking at 3 years minimum...and I don't see any way he gets the minimum here.

If his lawyers take it to trial, which would mean the pictures of the fireball that was the car and the fact that the other driver was burned to death would be entered into the public record and consideration in sentencing, it would suggest to me he'd get the max on both in that case.

This isn't 2 years in jail, folks. If I were laying odds I'd say 6 minimum.
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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby abloom » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:33 am

PR0v3 wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:31 am He was going 156 mph with a .161 BAC.

Lock him up for good.
I'm not sure if this would of made NFL stay away, but I'm pretty sure that his prison legth will make a return to the NFL really difficult.
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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby nathanq42 » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:39 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:00 am 156, twice the blood alcohol level, and a loaded gun

Yeah, he's not going to get off on a Stallworth deal. It's probably going to be years of prison time.
That is disgusting... I live in canada where the fastest posted speed limit I've seen is 100... KM/h... on a flat straight highway.. This guy was just pedal to the metal while very not sober... I really hope he doesnt get any special treatment
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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby JTLoh » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:45 am

Mephistopheles wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:27 am The penalties are 1-6 years AND 2-20 years, respectively so he's looking at 3 years minimum...and I don't see any way he gets the minimum here.

This isn't 2 years in jail, folks. If I were laying odds I'd say 6 minimum.
This depends on if they sentences run consecutive or concurrent.
Also, in Nevada they don't give out the minimum or maximum. The Judge sets a range, like 2-6. There is a 40% rule and such. The minimum would be when the person is eligible for parole. In addition, you can get time off for good behavior. Probably doesn't go to trial as you say.

But I'd definitely take the wager he doesn't do more that 5-6 years. (actual time served) (and not that he wouldn't deserve it)
I'd say more like 2-3. Working in the system for 12+ years we had a saying, if you ever wanted to kill someone, do it with a car.
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Re: Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

Postby BradyT » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:47 am

I actually dont think it matters for his career, its over anyway. Let it be the minimum of 2 years or even less, maybe even no jail time at all(if he get AHerns 2nd lawyer Jose Baez). His career is over. The fact that he caused a car crash while being drunk and the victim possibly burning to death(could possibly deceased right away, an autopsy will show that) should be enough for any franchise not to sign him ever again. Its just to gruesome to asociate yourself with that in any way shape or form.
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