You're right, I didn't even think about it...this may just be the year he breaks out
2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
3x teams in 32-team standard PPR + IDP leagues
It doesn't matter what we want. Once we get it, we want something else.
It doesn't matter what we want. Once we get it, we want something else.
Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
I proposed a trade a couple weeks ago before week 3:
Send: DK, Andrews, Mattison and a 1st
Get: Najee and Hockenson
Declined with no counter.
Then yesterday I got this counter (after Hockenson duds for 3 weeks)
Give: AJ Brown, DK Metcalf and a first
Get: Edmonds and Hockenson
Send: DK, Andrews, Mattison and a 1st
Get: Najee and Hockenson
Declined with no counter.
Then yesterday I got this counter (after Hockenson duds for 3 weeks)
Give: AJ Brown, DK Metcalf and a first
Get: Edmonds and Hockenson
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
Give: OBJ
Get: Jamison Crowder
I know most are low on OBJ, but c'mon
Get: Jamison Crowder
I know most are low on OBJ, but c'mon
Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
Give: CMC, Ja'Marr Chase
Get: Higgins, Gaskin, ARob
Get: Higgins, Gaskin, ARob
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
Same league, different owners
GIVE: AJ Brown GET: Dawson Knox
GIVE: AJ Brown GET: Hunter Henry and a 4th
GIVE: AJ Brown GET: Dawson Knox
GIVE: AJ Brown GET: Hunter Henry and a 4th
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
You're lucky you got an offer for OBJ at all.Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:30 am Give: OBJ
Get: Jamison Crowder
I know most are low on OBJ, but c'mon
I offered a trade to someone a couple weeks ago where I offered a contending WR needy team Cook and OBJ for about what I'd give for Cook...in essence I offered OBJ for free...
And he rejected it. No counter. Sole reason according to him was because he didn't want OBJ.
PSA - Haggling is NOT the same as negotiating.
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
I'm higher on OBJ than most and genuinely think he's still one of the most talented WRs in football. There's a huge chemistry issue in CLE. I understand being tired of him as a fantasy asset and wanting out on him, but simply not wanting a talented player on your roster is wild to me lolMephistopheles wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:20 amYou're lucky you got an offer for OBJ at all.Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:30 am Give: OBJ
Get: Jamison Crowder
I know most are low on OBJ, but c'mon
I offered a trade to someone a couple weeks ago where I offered a contending WR needy team Cook and OBJ for about what I'd give for Cook...in essence I offered OBJ for free...
And he rejected it. No counter. Sole reason according to him was because he didn't want OBJ.
Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
That lack of chemistry is a huge red flag for me. Stud receivers can work with any QB. Many stars still out up huge numbers despite bad QBs.Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:23 amI'm higher on OBJ than most and genuinely think he's still one of the most talented WRs in football. There's a huge chemistry issue in CLE. I understand being tired of him as a fantasy asset and wanting out on him, but simply not wanting a talented player on your roster is wild to me lolMephistopheles wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:20 amYou're lucky you got an offer for OBJ at all.Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:30 am Give: OBJ
Get: Jamison Crowder
I know most are low on OBJ, but c'mon
I offered a trade to someone a couple weeks ago where I offered a contending WR needy team Cook and OBJ for about what I'd give for Cook...in essence I offered OBJ for free...
And he rejected it. No counter. Sole reason according to him was because he didn't want OBJ.
I think eventually OBJ will be on another team, but he may again have chemistry issues. Depending on roster sizes, having an unstartable asset may not work.
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
I think that's a fair criticism for the most part. Idk the Baker/Odell connection (or lack thereof) has been tough to watch.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:28 amThat lack of chemistry is a huge red flag for me. Stud receivers can work with any QB. Many stars still out up huge numbers despite bad QBs.Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:23 amI'm higher on OBJ than most and genuinely think he's still one of the most talented WRs in football. There's a huge chemistry issue in CLE. I understand being tired of him as a fantasy asset and wanting out on him, but simply not wanting a talented player on your roster is wild to me lolMephistopheles wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:20 am
You're lucky you got an offer for OBJ at all.
I offered a trade to someone a couple weeks ago where I offered a contending WR needy team Cook and OBJ for about what I'd give for Cook...in essence I offered OBJ for free...
And he rejected it. No counter. Sole reason according to him was because he didn't want OBJ.
I think eventually OBJ will be on another team, but he may again have chemistry issues. Depending on roster sizes, having an unstartable asset may not work.
Roster size and strength of team/depth would be a legitimate consideration in that scenario for sure, good point
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
I agree with you for the most part except on the bolded above. I think of him more as on the WR2/WR3 cusp for FF. One of those highlight reel players it's fun to watch.Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:23 amI'm higher on OBJ than most and genuinely think he's still one of the most talented WRs in football. There's a huge chemistry issue in CLE. I understand being tired of him as a fantasy asset and wanting out on him, but simply not wanting a talented player on your roster is wild to me lolMephistopheles wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:20 amYou're lucky you got an offer for OBJ at all.Prison_Mike wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:30 am Give: OBJ
Get: Jamison Crowder
I know most are low on OBJ, but c'mon
I offered a trade to someone a couple weeks ago where I offered a contending WR needy team Cook and OBJ for about what I'd give for Cook...in essence I offered OBJ for free...
And he rejected it. No counter. Sole reason according to him was because he didn't want OBJ.
But this team, I have a top notch starting lineup but if I lose one player, I can't fill the void. For example, with Cook out last week I had to start Jaret Patterson. When Higgins was out I was starting Donovan Peoples Jones. Plus it's a SF and I have only one QB who is an NFL starter (Darnold). I'm 1-4 and going nowhere so I'm moving assets - maybe a bit early - that can produce currently for contenders.
It just floored me that in a trade where I was giving him OBJ heavily discounted, he just saw OBJ and rejected without looking at the rest.
Offer was Cook, Callaway, OBJ for Watson, Etienne, 2022 1, 2023 1 (both likely late) plus Lindsay and Kylin Hill (his likely drops). Other team was 3-1 and I was 0-4 at the time.
PSA - Haggling is NOT the same as negotiating.
Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
12 team TE premium
Give: Pitts
Get: Donovan Peoples-Jones, Damien Harris, LilJordan Humphrey, Harrison Bryant, Kaden Smith
Give: Pitts
Get: Donovan Peoples-Jones, Damien Harris, LilJordan Humphrey, Harrison Bryant, Kaden Smith
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
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14 team SF 1.5 TEP
Give: Hunter Henry + Chuba Hubbard
Get: Russel Gage + 2023 2nd
Give: Hunter Henry + Chuba Hubbard
Get: Russel Gage + 2023 2nd
Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
Had to look up Gage, never a good sign
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
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Re: 2021 BAD TRADE OFFERS
Yep I actually lold.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
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