Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
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Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
All 4 will have value this year, but if you had to have 1, who you taking?
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
I think Edwards has the most upside this year if Dobbins is out. Hunt has elite competition in front of him and Michel will not be a bellcow.
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
Gus or Rojo.
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
Kareem Hunt by a mile. He's more of a 1B in that offense and his TDs will keep his floor high, anything happens to Chubb hes immediately in the top 5 weekly RB mix. The only other guy in his tier in that list is Edwards and it's yet to be seen what the Ravens will do with that situation, it could be a next man up and Edwards is the guy or they could add a veteran back and it will look a lot like last years RBBC but with Edwards getting a larger share. Honestly, I don't think its close, Hunt finished last year as RB10 in PPR and his role in that offense is well established.
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
Hunt>Gus>Michel=Jones for me
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
This was my rank before the Dobbins injury. Still is.
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
They all seem to be second in “actual” depth chart since Gus has Jackson. I think Gus has the edge on goal line work over Hunt (if they want to protect Jackson), so I would put him first.
No clue what Rams story will be but doesn’t seem like they know either
Jones will have few good weeks if you can guess which ones that could be gold
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Jones will have few good weeks if you can guess which ones that could be gold
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
Just curious how you came to this conclusion?
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
Because I think Nick Chubb might be better than Ty'Son Williams
Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
Uh, Okay. Still don’t see how that has anything to do with their red zone usage, Hunt and Edwards scored the same amount of red zone TDs last season (6) but Hunt had 11 total TDs and about 100 more fantasy points and we know what his role is in this offense, so I completely disagree that Edwards being the goal line back somehow makes him more valuable. Yes, Edwards becomes a fringe RB2 but he’s not going to get as many touches or as many valuable touches as Hunt.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:13 pmBecause I think Nick Chubb might be better than Ty'Son Williams
Also, Hunt got MORE red zone touches than Chubb last year.
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
I chase volume. I do NOT chase touchdownsjtk1234 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:08 pmUh, Okay. Still don’t see how that has anything to do with their red zone usage, Hunt and Edwards scored the same amount of red zone TDs last season (6) but Hunt had 11 total TDs and about 100 more fantasy points and we know what his role is in this offense, so I completely disagree that Edwards being the goal line back somehow makes him more valuable. Yes, Edwards becomes a fringe RB2 but he’s not going to get as many touches or as many valuable touches as Hunt.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:13 pmBecause I think Nick Chubb might be better than Ty'Son Williams
Also, Hunt got MORE red zone touches than Chubb last year.
They are about as unsticky of a stat as it gets and extremely hard to predict year to year
Also you conveninently leave out that Edwards was the backup for the listed games
JK Dobbins is not there
Kareem Hunt was the RB10 based off a ridiculously high TD rate. Those will never be the types of players I go after the next year (WRs or RBs)
Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
You aren’t making any sense, your original line of reasoning for Edwards over Hunt was goal line touches, but now you aren’t factoring touchdowns, which is it?StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:15 pmI chase volume. I do NOT chase touchdownsjtk1234 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:08 pmUh, Okay. Still don’t see how that has anything to do with their red zone usage, Hunt and Edwards scored the same amount of red zone TDs last season (6) but Hunt had 11 total TDs and about 100 more fantasy points and we know what his role is in this offense, so I completely disagree that Edwards being the goal line back somehow makes him more valuable. Yes, Edwards becomes a fringe RB2 but he’s not going to get as many touches or as many valuable touches as Hunt.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:13 pm
Because I think Nick Chubb might be better than Ty'Son Williams
Also, Hunt got MORE red zone touches than Chubb last year.
They are about as unsticky of a stat as it gets and extremely hard to predict year to year
Also you conveninently leave out that Edwards was the backup for the listed games
JK Dobbins is not there
Kareem Hunt was the RB10 based off a ridiculously high TD rate. Those will never be the types of players I go after the next year (WRs or RBs)
And if you want to go the volume route - Hunt had 198 carries (good for 11th) and like 240 total touches, I don’t think you have a grasp on how he was utilized in that offense, him and Chubb essentially split the share of offensive touches when they were both healthy, another factor working in Hunts favor as I mention in my original post that Chubb is injury prone and Hunt becomes a top tier RB if he gets hurt.
And let’s be honest, even though the Ravens are extremely run heavy, Jackson is the de facto RB1 in that offense and in a best case scenario, Edwards gets like 200 carries and catches a handful of balls, so Hunt is proven and we know his role, and its a good role that produced an RB10 finish last year, Edwards role is still a question mark. There’s no way Edwards comes close to Hunt imho.
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Re: Gus Edwards, Sony Michel, Ronald Jones, or Kareem Hunt for the 2021 season?
I have never and will never use TDs as logic for backing a playerjtk1234 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:27 pmYou aren’t making any sense, your original line of reasoning for Edwards over Hunt was goal line touches, but now you aren’t factoring touchdowns, which is it?StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:15 pmI chase volume. I do NOT chase touchdownsjtk1234 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:08 pm
Uh, Okay. Still don’t see how that has anything to do with their red zone usage, Hunt and Edwards scored the same amount of red zone TDs last season (6) but Hunt had 11 total TDs and about 100 more fantasy points and we know what his role is in this offense, so I completely disagree that Edwards being the goal line back somehow makes him more valuable. Yes, Edwards becomes a fringe RB2 but he’s not going to get as many touches or as many valuable touches as Hunt.
Also, Hunt got MORE red zone touches than Chubb last year.
They are about as unsticky of a stat as it gets and extremely hard to predict year to year
Also you conveninently leave out that Edwards was the backup for the listed games
JK Dobbins is not there
Kareem Hunt was the RB10 based off a ridiculously high TD rate. Those will never be the types of players I go after the next year (WRs or RBs)
And if you want to go the volume route - Hunt had 198 carries (good for 11th) and like 240 total touches, I don’t think you have a grasp on how he was utilized in that offense, him and Chubb essentially split the share of offensive touches when they were both healthy, another factor working in Hunts favor as I mention in my original post that Chubb is injury prone and Hunt becomes a top tier RB if he gets hurt.
And let’s be honest, even though the Ravens are extremely run heavy, Jackson is the de facto RB1 in that offense and in a best case scenario, Edwards gets like 200 carries and catches a handful of balls, so Hunt is proven and we know his role, and its a good role that produced an RB10 finish last year, Edwards role is still a question mark. There’s no way Edwards comes close to Hunt imho.
And yet Hunt was useless last year when he didn't score TDs. Maybe the most TD dependent "RB10" finish I've ever seen
Except Chubb got hurt and Hunt....produced the same as before Chubb's injury
No idea where you're getting the Jackson RB1 comment. Yeah there are games where he gets a ton of carries--but he is in no way a goal line specialist or vulture like Cam Newton
RB1 on the highest volume rushing offense in the league beats the TD dependent RB2 on an offense that IMO is due for greater pass volume (something we already saw in the 2nd half of last season)
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