Xavier Jones is this years James Robinson

[FantasyFreak]

I honestly don't think there is a James Robinson this year. What he did doesn't happen too often.

This is my feeling every time there’s a “Who’s the Next [player who has an extremely rare breakout]” thread.

I have Jones where I have Henderson, and in another league where he was surprisingly a free pickup. He’s probably JAG, but given Henderson’s struggles staying healthy he’s worth the add.

I added Jones myself in leagues where he was on the wire. Had the same thought as the bolded. It's actually why I made that comment. Usually the answer to those threads is "nobody".

Not to get the thread off topic too much, but the Robinson trajectory was interesting last year. Some held out, instead of selling for a 2nd, then the price got to first, or even first plus if you were lucky, and now it's probably back down to a 2nd, or less. Those who got out at the height of his value, congrats. If you held, but he helped win you a title, congrats. WW adds like that (for most, or a 4th rd rookie pick) can really help a dynasty team out, with all the injuries, failed draft pick etc.

[sugbear65]

I honestly don't think there is a James Robinson this year. What he did doesn't happen too often.

This is my feeling every time there’s a “Who’s the Next [player who has an extremely rare breakout]” thread.

I have Jones where I have Henderson, and in another league where he was surprisingly a free pickup. He’s probably JAG, but given Henderson’s struggles staying healthy he’s worth the add.

I added Jones myself in leagues where he was on the wire. Had the same thought as the bolded. It's actually why I made that comment. Usually the answer to those threads is "nobody".

Not to get the thread off topic too much, but the Robinson trajectory was interesting last year. Some held out, instead of selling for a 2nd, then the price got to first, or even first plus if you were lucky, and now it's probably back down to a 2nd, or less. Those who got out at the height of his value, congrats. If you held, but he helped win you a title, congrats. WW adds like that (for most, or a 4th rd rookie pick) can really help a dynasty team out, with all the injuries, failed draft pick etc.

Yeah, there’s never a late round or undrafted RB that sneaks up a depth chart and becomes a fantasy asset like Robinson. Or P. Lindsay. Or R. Mostert. Or C. Carson. Or L. Blount. Or CJ Anderson. Or A. Foster. Or D. Woodhead. Or Pierre Thomas. Or A. Bradshaw. Or P. Holmes. Or T. Davis. Or…
Look, I know it doesn’t happen EVERY year. But it happens often enough that if you aren’t actively trying to determine who that could be, you are doing your fantasy team a disservice. Startable RBs you can get for basically free is a big help to any championship contender, or an easy sell for profit to any rebuilder.

[OhCruelestRanter]

This is my feeling every time there’s a “Who’s the Next [player who has an extremely rare breakout]” thread.

I have Jones where I have Henderson, and in another league where he was surprisingly a free pickup. He’s probably JAG, but given Henderson’s struggles staying healthy he’s worth the add.

I added Jones myself in leagues where he was on the wire. Had the same thought as the bolded. It's actually why I made that comment. Usually the answer to those threads is "nobody".

Not to get the thread off topic too much, but the Robinson trajectory was interesting last year. Some held out, instead of selling for a 2nd, then the price got to first, or even first plus if you were lucky, and now it's probably back down to a 2nd, or less. Those who got out at the height of his value, congrats. If you held, but he helped win you a title, congrats. WW adds like that (for most, or a 4th rd rookie pick) can really help a dynasty team out, with all the injuries, failed draft pick etc.

Yeah, there’s never a late round or undrafted RB that sneaks up a depth chart and becomes a fantasy asset like Robinson. Or P. Lindsay. Or R. Mostert. Or C. Carson. Or L. Blount. Or CJ Anderson. Or A. Foster. Or D. Woodhead. Or Pierre Thomas. Or A. Bradshaw. Or P. Holmes. Or T. Davis. Or…
Look, I know it doesn’t happen EVERY year. But it happens often enough that if you aren’t actively trying to determine who that could be, you are doing your fantasy team a disservice. Startable RBs you can get for basically free is a big help to any championship contender, or an easy sell for profit to any rebuilder.

Okay, but a lot of those guys have wildly disparate stories. James Robinson was a rookie, Raheem Mostert bounced around six teams in two years before breaking out on the 49ers in his 4th season. It wouldn’t have made sense to call Robinson the next Mostert or the next Bradshaw because their career paths weren’t similar.

All of these guys are just sleepers. I agree that there are sleepers every year. I think that pigeonholing the search for sleepers into “The Next Player X” isn’t useful and unnecessarily narrows the scope for finding those sleepers.

[sugbear65]

I added Jones myself in leagues where he was on the wire. Had the same thought as the bolded. It's actually why I made that comment. Usually the answer to those threads is "nobody".

Not to get the thread off topic too much, but the Robinson trajectory was interesting last year. Some held out, instead of selling for a 2nd, then the price got to first, or even first plus if you were lucky, and now it's probably back down to a 2nd, or less. Those who got out at the height of his value, congrats. If you held, but he helped win you a title, congrats. WW adds like that (for most, or a 4th rd rookie pick) can really help a dynasty team out, with all the injuries, failed draft pick etc.

Yeah, there’s never a late round or undrafted RB that sneaks up a depth chart and becomes a fantasy asset like Robinson. Or P. Lindsay. Or R. Mostert. Or C. Carson. Or L. Blount. Or CJ Anderson. Or A. Foster. Or D. Woodhead. Or Pierre Thomas. Or A. Bradshaw. Or P. Holmes. Or T. Davis. Or…
Look, I know it doesn’t happen EVERY year. But it happens often enough that if you aren’t actively trying to determine who that could be, you are doing your fantasy team a disservice. Startable RBs you can get for basically free is a big help to any championship contender, or an easy sell for profit to any rebuilder.

Okay, but a lot of those guys have wildly disparate stories. James Robinson was a rookie, Raheem Mostert bounced around six teams in two years before breaking out on the 49ers in his 4th season. It wouldn’t have made sense to call Robinson the next Mostert or the next Bradshaw because their career paths weren’t similar.

All of these guys are just sleepers. I agree that there are sleepers every year. I think that pigeonholing the search for sleepers into “The Next Player X” isn’t useful and unnecessarily narrows the scope for finding those sleepers.

Ok, but we are not talking about sleepers in general, there’s other threads for that. We are talking about X. Jones. It should be a narrow scope. J. Robinson was an UFA, prob available for free at some point in the offseason, that was able to rise up a depth chart, past other players that many viewed as the better fantasy assets, to become the starter, leading to a strong fantasy season a huge value bump. I am positioning the argument that I think Jones could have a similar trajectory, and he is worth getting a hold of in case of a similar value explosion. I’m not sure how referencing a recent player example for comparison sake could be detrimental?

[OhCruelestRanter]

Ok, but we are not talking about sleepers in general, there’s other threads for that. We are talking about X. Jones. It should be a narrow scope. J. Robinson was an UFA, prob available for free at some point in the offseason, that was able to rise up a depth chart, past other players that many viewed as the better fantasy assets, to become the starter, leading to a strong fantasy season a huge value bump. I am positioning the argument that I think Jones could have a similar trajectory, and he is worth getting a hold of in case of a similar value explosion. I’m not sure how referencing a recent player example for comparison sake could be detrimental?

This is a fair question. The answer is straightforward- even if Xavier Jones sees a similar value bump, it’s very unlikely to happen in the same way as Robinson… so why call him “the next James Robinson?”

He’s not a rookie on a team that’s going to cut their presumed starter and give him an insane percentage of the RB work while they tank for the 1st pick. There’s nothing to be gained by calling him “the next James Robinson” instead of just “a sleeper,” which is what he is.

[sugbear65]

I think maybe you are taking things too literally. It’s just a title, there’s some hyperbole involved. But it’s meant to get people talking about X. Jones. Not to have an apples to apples comparison debate between Jones and Robinson. I only used Robinson as a reference because I could see a lot of parallels in their story, if Jones were to become the Rams starter and have a successful season. If you don’t agree, that’s fine, but that’s not really the point of the thread as I intended it.

[Valhalla]

Please change the title of this thread to “Xavier Jones is this year’s first Xavier Jones.” Thanks

[Valhalla]

Also...can we just recognize Xavier as the fox in DaHen's house?
Xavier = fox

[YouMightDieTryin]

Also...can we just recognize Xavier as the fox in DaHen's house?
Xavier = fox

Mic Drop. You can leave now sir. Good day.

[kadun2]

Also...can we just recognize Xavier as the fox in DaHen's house?
Xavier = fox

Bam!

[jman3134]

Xavier Jones is cut!!

[Valhalla]

Xavier Jones is cut!!

Well, he has to get to Jacksonville to steal Robinson’s job and be this year’s James Robinson.

[YouMightDieTryin]

And now I need to hold onto Jones to see where he lands. Blasphemy!

[Bronco Billy]

Nuts. I missed completely on him. Thought he had enough talent and had shown enough to stick.

[cazzie33]

Haven't seen this confirmed so could just be trolling the forums